[bksvol-discuss] Re: bksvol-discuss Digest V11 #116
- From: Jack Teeter <jteeter45@xxxxxxx>
- To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 07:04:13 -0700 (PDT)
How about some concrete examples?
Seems there are changes to:
1. elipses
2. quotes
3. em dashes
4. footnotes
Please provide a sample page that presents a clear example of each. In the case
where more than one solution is acceptable give only the preferred solution --
I can adapt if I can see exactly what I need to do to comply.
Regards,
Jack Teeter
Brighton, IL
618-978-1847
On Friday, May 23, 2014 12:08 AM, FreeLists Mailing List Manager
<ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>bksvol-discuss Digest Thu, 22 May 2014 Volume: 11 Issue: 116
>
>In This Issue:
> [bksvol-discuss] I'm Back
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: A Song in Spanish
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: New proofreading requirements: quotes,
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: New proofreading requirements: quotes,
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: A Song in Spanish
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: New proofreading requirements: quotes,
> [bksvol-discuss] Hard Page Breaks
> [bksvol-discuss] Fwd: New proofreading requirements: quotes,
> [bksvol-discuss] Summary of current requirements on handling
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Hard Page Breaks
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Hard Page Breaks
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Summary of current requirements on hand
> [bksvol-discuss] instructions for gettting jaws to say hard
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: New proofreading requirements: quotes,
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: I'm Back
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Summary of current requirements on hand
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: instructions for gettting jaws to say h
> [bksvol-discuss] Any more new info?
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: instructions for gettting jaws to say h
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: instructions for gettting jaws to say h
> [bksvol-discuss] sorry, wrong recipient.
> [bksvol-discuss] Help with a book
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: instructions for gettting jaws to say h
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with a book
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with a book
> [bksvol-discuss] bold and mdash characters
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with a book
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with a book
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with a book
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with a book
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with a book
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with a book
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with a book
> [bksvol-discuss] OT: Maples family update
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: bold and mdash characters
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 04:06:18 -0700
>From: Sensation Experience Official <sensationexperience.official@xxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] I'm Back
>
>Hi guys,
>I'm just writing to let you know that due to a water spill I had with
>one of my computers, I was stuck without a computer for a whole month.
>The only desktop I have access to right wasn't able to get internet
>until we moved it a few hours ago. I was able to use a disc enclosure to
>successfully take the Mac apart and plug the hard drive into my desktop
>and back up all of my data.
>So, I'm just letting everyone know that I am back now.
>Take care,
>-Ulysses
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 04:08:31 -0700
>From: Sensation Experience Official <sensationexperience.official@xxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A Song in Spanish
>
>Hi there,
>I am not sure if you already had someone help you, but I speak Spanish
>so I can probably check for you, that is if you haven't already had
>someone do so.
>-Ulysses14/04/2014 15:35, Lori Caster wrote:
>> Hi, Everyone,
>>
>> I have scanned a book which I would like to submit to Bookshare.
>>
>> In this book there is a song written in Spanish and then translated into
>> English. As I do not know Spanish, I am not certain whether the lines have
>> scanned correctly.
>>
>> Is there anyone who can review the scan of the Spanish lines if I email you
>> the page(s) for review. There are probably twenty lines of Spanish.
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>> Lori C.
>>
>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of
>> available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
>>
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>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 04:13:29 -0700
>From: Sensation Experience Official <sensationexperience.official@xxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: New proofreading requirements: quotes, ellipses,
>
>Hi there,
>Could you provide us with some examples, especially for the ellipses
>situation? That could be helpful.
>Warmly,
>-Ulysses
>On 24/04/2014 09:41, Madeleine Linages wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> As I've mentioned before we're doing some in-house testing about what
>> the Bookshare converter can and cannot handle. It's been through many
>> iterations and no one really knows exactly what it can or can't do
>> (engineers included!). We want to make sure that volunteers and staff
>> are all on the same page and aware of all changes as we learn about
>> them. We're finally getting some answers and I wanted to share some
>> things I learned below. Please feel free to contact me with questions.
>>
>> Ellipses: do NOT put a space before the ellipsis (no space between the
>> word and the dots). Do NOT put a period after, and therefore do not
>> put a space before the period. If there's a word after the ellipsis,
>> please put a space between the last dot and the word.
>>
>> Quotes: all quotes, smart or otherwise, are converted to simple
>> quotes. No need to change them.
>>
>> Em-dashes are always converted to double dashes when going to Daisy.
>> Double dashes are preserved as double dashes. Single dashes are
>> preserved as single dashes.
>>
>> This is all new information to me too, so I'm very glad I was able to
>> ask about this stuff. Going forward, please use the above info when
>> proofreading.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Madeleine Linares
>>
>> Volunteer Coordinator
>>
>> Bookshare, a Benetech Initiative
>>
>> 650-644-3459
>>
>> volunteer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:volunteer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>--
>Learn more about spreading the Sensation Experience attitude
>Visit our web site at: http://www.sensationexperience.com/
>Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sensationexperiencepage
>Follow us on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/sensationexperi
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: "Martha Rafter" <mlhr@xxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: New proofreading requirements: quotes, ellipses,
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 09:07:43 -0400
>
>Hi Madeline,
> I’m probably being very tiresome, but, with the ellipses, are you aware
>that not putting a space between the word before and the ellipses is a
>complete change from what we’ve always done? I thought not having the space
>messed up Braille copies of the books we do. I’m sorry but I guess I need
>help, again!
>Marty
>From: Sensation Experience Official
>Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 7:13 AM
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: New proofreading requirements: quotes, ellipses,
>and dashes
>
>Hi there,
>Could you provide us with some examples, especially for the ellipses
>situation? That could be helpful.
>Warmly,
>-Ulysses
>
>On 24/04/2014 09:41, Madeleine Linages wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> As I’ve mentioned before we’re doing some in-house testing about what
>the Bookshare converter can and cannot handle. It’s been through many
>iterations and no one really knows exactly what it can or can’t do
>(engineers included!). We want to make sure that volunteers and staff are all
>on the same page and aware of all changes as we learn about them. We’re
>finally getting some answers and I wanted to share some things I learned
>below. Please feel free to contact me with questions.
>
>
>
> Ellipses: do NOT put a space before the ellipsis (no space between the word
>and the dots). Do NOT put a period after, and therefore do not put a space
>before the period. If there’s a word after the ellipsis, please put a space
>between the last dot and the word.
>
>
>
> Quotes: all quotes, smart or otherwise, are converted to simple quotes. No
>need to change them.
>
>
>
> Em-dashes are always converted to double dashes when going to Daisy. Double
>dashes are preserved as double dashes. Single dashes are preserved as single
>dashes.
>
>
>
> This is all new information to me too, so I’m very glad I was able to ask
>about this stuff. Going forward, please use the above info when proofreading.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Madeleine Linares
>
> Volunteer Coordinator
>
> Bookshare, a Benetech Initiative
>
> 650-644-3459
>
> volunteer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
>
>--
>Learn more about spreading the Sensation Experience attitude
>Visit our web site at: http://www.sensationexperience.com/
>Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sensationexperiencepage
>Follow us on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/sensationexperi
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: "Lori Castner" <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A Song in Spanish
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 08:41:07 -0700
>
>Thank you! I did receive help with the Spanish, and the book "How am I
>smart?" has been proofread and is now in the collection.
>
>
>Lori
>
>
>
>
>
>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sensation
>Experience Official
>Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 4:09 AM
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A Song in Spanish
>
>
>
>Hi there,
>I am not sure if you already had someone help you, but I speak Spanish so I
>can probably check for you, that is if you haven't already had someone do
>so.
>-Ulysses14/04/2014 15:35, Lori Caster wrote:
>
>Hi, Everyone,
>
>I have scanned a book which I would like to submit to Bookshare.
>
>In this book there is a song written in Spanish and then translated into
>English. As I do not know Spanish, I am not certain whether the lines have
>scanned correctly.
>
>Is there anyone who can review the scan of the Spanish lines if I email you
>the page(s) for review. There are probably twenty lines of Spanish.
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Lori C.
>
>To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
>bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of
>available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
>
>
>
>
>--
>Learn more about spreading the Sensation Experience attitude
>Visit our web site at: http://www.sensationexperience.com/
>Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sensationexperiencepage
>Follow us on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/sensationexperi
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: "Lori Castner" <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: New proofreading requirements: quotes, ellipses,
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 08:44:43 -0700
>
>I agree, Marty, this whole issue of ellipses and dashes is very confusing,
>especially because the instructions change periodically. I was bounced from
>the list when the newest information came out, so I’m getting it in pieces
>which is even more baffling. And, we don’t have any updated manual to check.
>
>
>Lori C.
>
>
>
>
>
>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Martha Rafter
>Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 6:08 AM
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: New proofreading requirements: quotes, ellipses,
>and dashes
>
>
>
>Hi Madeline,
>
> I’m probably being very tiresome, but, with the ellipses, are you aware
>that not putting a space between the word before and the ellipses is a
>complete change from what we’ve always done? I thought not having the space
>messed up Braille copies of the books we do. I’m sorry but I guess I need
>help, again!
>
>Marty
>
>
>
>From: Sensation Experience Official
><mailto:sensationexperience.official@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 7:13 AM
>
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: New proofreading requirements: quotes, ellipses,
>and dashes
>
>
>
>Hi there,
>Could you provide us with some examples, especially for the ellipses
>situation? That could be helpful.
>Warmly,
>-Ulysses
>
>On 24/04/2014 09:41, Madeleine Linages wrote:
>
>Hi all,
>
>
>
>As I’ve mentioned before we’re doing some in-house testing about what the
>Bookshare converter can and cannot handle. It’s been through many iterations
>and no one really knows exactly what it can or can’t do (engineers
>included!). We want to make sure that volunteers and staff are all on the same
>page and aware of all changes as we learn about them. We’re finally getting
>some answers and I wanted to share some things I learned below. Please feel
>free to contact me with questions.
>
>
>
>Ellipses: do NOT put a space before the ellipsis (no space between the word
>and the dots). Do NOT put a period after, and therefore do not put a space
>before the period. If there’s a word after the ellipsis, please put a space
>between the last dot and the word.
>
>
>
>Quotes: all quotes, smart or otherwise, are converted to simple quotes. No
>need to change them.
>
>
>
>Em-dashes are always converted to double dashes when going to Daisy. Double
>dashes are preserved as double dashes. Single dashes are preserved as single
>dashes.
>
>
>
>This is all new information to me too, so I’m very glad I was able to ask
>about this stuff. Going forward, please use the above info when proofreading.
>
>
>
>Best,
>
>
>
>Madeleine Linares
>
>Volunteer Coordinator
>
>Bookshare, a Benetech Initiative
>
>650-644-3459
>
>volunteer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
>
>--
>Learn more about spreading the Sensation Experience attitude
>Visit our web site at: http://www.sensationexperience.com/
>Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sensationexperiencepage
>Follow us on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/sensationexperi
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: "Kim Friedman" <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Hard Page Breaks
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 10:13:35 -0700
>
>Hi, I have a book to proofread and I am running Windows 7, have Word 2013,
>and the screen reader is Jaws 15. So How can I make Jaws tell me where hard
>page breaks occur? I tried going into the dictionary manager but when I open
>a file, I hear the new page number but not the words "page break". Also,
>what's this I hear about spaces being left out of ellipses? I thought the
>policy was to put a space between the word and the ellipsis. Why was this
>change instituted? As I recall, I never read Braille books where ellipses
>occurred smack-dab against a word. Also, please let me know about other
>changes of proofreading policy. I'm about to do some proofreading and would
>prefer to do things right only to find out what I thought was right is not
>approved of. Regards, Kim Friedman.
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 12:43:29 -0500
>From: "Judy s." <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Fwd: New proofreading requirements: quotes, ellipses,
>
>Hi Kim,
>This is what Madeleine sent to the list last month regarding the changes
>in quotes, ellipses and dashes.
>
>Judy s.
>Follow me on Twitter at QuackersNCheese
><https://twitter.com/QuackersNCheese>
>
>
>
>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] New proofreading requirements: quotes,
>ellipses, and dashes
>Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 16:41:20 +0000
>From: Madeleine Linares <Madeleinel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>
>Hi all,
>
>As I've mentioned before we're doing some in-house testing about what
>the Bookshare converter can and cannot handle. It's been through many
>iterations and no one really knows exactly what it can or can't do
>(engineers included!). We want to make sure that volunteers and staff
>are all on the same page and aware of all changes as we learn about
>them. We're finally getting some answers and I wanted to share some
>things I learned below. Please feel free to contact me with questions.
>
>Ellipses: do NOT put a space before the ellipsis (no space between the
>word and the dots). Do NOT put a period after, and therefore do not put
>a space before the period. If there's a word after the ellipsis, please
>put a space between the last dot and the word.
>
>Quotes: all quotes, smart or otherwise, are converted to simple quotes.
>No need to change them.
>
>Em-dashes are always converted to double dashes when going to Daisy.
>Double dashes are preserved as double dashes. Single dashes are
>preserved as single dashes.
>
>This is all new information to me too, so I'm very glad I was able to
>ask about this stuff. Going forward, please use the above info when
>proofreading.
>
>Best,
>
>Madeleine Linares
>
>Volunteer Coordinator
>
>Bookshare, a Benetech Initiative
>
>650-644-3459
>
>volunteer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:volunteer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 12:53:05 -0500
>From: "Judy s." <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Summary of current requirements on handling footnote
>
>Here's a summary for Kim (and anyone else whose interested) pasted
>together from what Madeleine has posted on how to handle footnote
>numbers within the text, and then how to handle the foot notes themselves.
>The instructions in the current proofreading manual are incorrect when
>they say to put square brackets around all footnote numbers within the text.
>
>The volunteer manual is being updated to correct the instructions, but
>until a new version is available here's how to handle footnote or
>endnote numbers within the text. You can do one of three things:
>
>1. place a blank space between the text and the footnote number, and
>place an asterisk next to the number (keeping the asterisk and number in
>normal (size 12) font); or
>2. keep the number in normal (size 12) font with no asterisk and just a
>space between the footnote number and the text; or
>3. keep the number in superscript font, again putting a space between
>the footnote number and the text.
>
>As to the footnotes themselves:
>
>We [Bookshare] ask that the information in the footnote be placed in
>brackets if the number is either superscript or regular-sized font in
>the text (to clarify that it is not part of the text). If the
>proofreader adds in an asterisk next to the number, he or she should add
>in three asterisks after the text and before the footnote information.
>In this case, the footnote information does not need to be included in
>brackets.
>
>Proofreaders have been adding in asterisks since before I [Madeleine]
>started, which is why they are allowed to continue. Since we are all
>working very hard to make sure that volunteers, outsourcers, and
>in-house staff are all doing things consistently, I've been recommending
>the method of leaving the number in the text (either in regular font
>size or superscripted) and then placing the footnote in brackets, as
>that is what both other in-house staff and outsourcers are instructed to
>do. However, we do still allow the asterisk version at this time.
>
>Also, if anyone comes across a book that only has one or two footnotes
>and the author has inserted asterisks (and no numbers), please put the
>footnote information in square brackets. In this case, include an
>asterisk before the footnote information (because there is no number),
>but no period after it.
>
>--
>Judy s.
>Follow me on Twitter at QuackersNCheese
><https://twitter.com/QuackersNCheese>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: "Larry Lumpkin" <llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Hard Page Breaks
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 13:58:55 -0500
>
>You need to add an entry to the jaws dictionary for word. I wrote out the
>steps and think I have them somewhere. I'll try to find them.
>
>
>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kim Friedman
>Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:14 PM
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Hard Page Breaks
>
>
>
>Hi, I have a book to proofread and I am running Windows 7, have Word 2013,
>and the screen reader is Jaws 15. So How can I make Jaws tell me where hard
>page breaks occur? I tried going into the dictionary manager but when I open
>a file, I hear the new page number but not the words "page break". Also,
>what's this I hear about spaces being left out of ellipses? I thought the
>policy was to put a space between the word and the ellipsis. Why was this
>change instituted? As I recall, I never read Braille books where ellipses
>occurred smack-dab against a word. Also, please let me know about other
>changes of proofreading policy. I'm about to do some proofreading and would
>prefer to do things right only to find out what I thought was right is not
>approved of. Regards, Kim Friedman.
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: "Larry Lumpkin" <llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Hard Page Breaks
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 14:23:46 -0500
>
>Haven't found them yet but will keep looking
>
>
>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
>Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 1:59 PM
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Hard Page Breaks
>
>
>
>You need to add an entry to the jaws dictionary for word. I wrote out the
>steps and think I have them somewhere. I'll try to find them.
>
>
>
>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kim Friedman
>Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:14 PM
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Hard Page Breaks
>
>
>
>Hi, I have a book to proofread and I am running Windows 7, have Word 2013,
>and the screen reader is Jaws 15. So How can I make Jaws tell me where hard
>page breaks occur? I tried going into the dictionary manager but when I open
>a file, I hear the new page number but not the words "page break". Also,
>what's this I hear about spaces being left out of ellipses? I thought the
>policy was to put a space between the word and the ellipsis. Why was this
>change instituted? As I recall, I never read Braille books where ellipses
>occurred smack-dab against a word. Also, please let me know about other
>changes of proofreading policy. I'm about to do some proofreading and would
>prefer to do things right only to find out what I thought was right is not
>approved of. Regards, Kim Friedman.
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 15:31:00 -0700
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Summary of current requirements on handling footn
>From: Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>Thanks, Judy. So I can make the footnote superscript but have to put a
>space before it? Hmm. I suppose in that case I might as well use the space
>asterisk number. I'll experiment and see which takes more time and/or which
>is easier to find when I'm checking to see if I have them all correct on
>mental autopilot, after my last long book,
>Wait. I'm sorry, now I'm a little confused by option #2
>
>Which of the following is what would be correct:
>
>
>1: from below by illegal organizations was effectively ruled out. 2
>
>Or 2: doing so. *12 next sentence
>or 3 complained that everything was too small. *11 :
>but I can't have superscript number without a space? so t this would be
>wrong: 4. complained that everything was too small. 11
>I guess option #1 is what I've been doing (space asterisk number space
>then next sentence or word -- so if I can't put the number in superscript
>without an asterisk I guess I'll continue (Is that right?
>Cindyy
>
>
>On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Judy s. <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Here's a summary for Kim (and anyone else whose interested) pasted
>> together from what Madeleine has posted on how to handle footnote numbers
>> within the text, and then how to handle the foot notes themselves.
>>
>> The instructions in the current proofreading manual are incorrect when
>> they say to put square brackets around all footnote numbers within the text.
>>
>> The volunteer manual is being updated to correct the instructions, but
>> until a new version is available here's how to handle footnote or endnote
>> numbers within the text. You can do one of three things:
>>
>> 1. place a blank space between the text and the footnote number, and place
>> an asterisk next to the number (keeping the asterisk and number in normal
>> (size 12) font); or
>> 2. keep the number in normal (size 12) font with no asterisk and just a
>> space between the footnote number and the text; or
>> 3. keep the number in superscript font, again putting a space between the
>> footnote number and the text.
>>
>> As to the footnotes themselves:
>>
>> We [Bookshare] ask that the information in the footnote be placed in
>> brackets if the number is either superscript or regular-sized font in the
>> text (to clarify that it is not part of the text). If the proofreader adds
>> in an asterisk next to the number, he or she should add in three asterisks
>> after the text and before the footnote information. In this case, the
>> footnote information does not need to be included in brackets.
>>
>> Proofreaders have been adding in asterisks since before I [Madeleine]
>> started, which is why they are allowed to continue. Since we are all
>> working very hard to make sure that volunteers, outsourcers, and in-house
>> staff are all doing things consistently, I've been recommending the method
>> of leaving the number in the text (either in regular font size or
>> superscripted) and then placing the footnote in brackets, as that is what
>> both other in-house staff and outsourcers are instructed to do. However, we
>> do still allow the asterisk version at this time.
>>
>> Also, if anyone comes across a book that only has one or two footnotes and
>> the author has inserted asterisks (and no numbers), please put the footnote
>> information in square brackets. In this case, include an asterisk before
>> the footnote information (because there is no number), but no period after
>> it.
>>
>> --
>> Judy s.
>> Follow me on Twitter at QuackersNCheese<https://twitter.com/QuackersNCheese>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: "Larry Lumpkin" <llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] instructions for gettting jaws to say hard page break
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 17:39:10 -0500
>
>Hi you guys. Did anyone save the steps I wrote for etting jaws to say page
>break? Could you put them up here again so I can grab them? Thanks
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 15:47:33 -0700
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: New proofreading requirements: quotes, ellipses,
>From: Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>Thanks for this clarification Madeleine (and examples of the footnote
>numbers would be useful (though perhaps Kim will reply to my post. Early
>on I did a book with superscript numbers -- no spaces before or after and
>no asterisks It looked so nice and was fun to do, even though it was a
>little more work -- but didn't actually take more time than putting an
>asterisk space number space etc. and a quick perusal of the file was
>enough to let me know if they were all there -- checking for them when
>they're regular font, is more difficult, evenwith an asterisk -- thogh I
>suppose a search for an asterisk would work)
>Cindy
>
>On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Sensation Experience Official <
>sensationexperience.official@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>> Could you provide us with some examples, especially for the ellipses
>> situation? That could be helpful.
>> Warmly,
>> -Ulysses
>> On 24/04/2014 09:41, Madeleine Linages wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> As I’ve mentioned before we’re doing some in-house testing about what the
>> Bookshare converter can and cannot handle. It’s been through many
>> iterations and no one really knows exactly what it can or can’t do
>> (engineers included!). We want to make sure that volunteers and staff are
>> all on the same page and aware of all changes as we learn about them. We’re
>> finally getting some answers and I wanted to share some things I learned
>> below. Please feel free to contact me with questions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ellipses: do NOT put a space before the ellipsis (no space between the
>> word and the dots). Do NOT put a period after, and therefore do not put a
>> space before the period. If there’s a word after the ellipsis, please put a
>> space between the last dot and the word.
>>
>>
>>
>> Quotes: all quotes, smart or otherwise, are converted to simple quotes. No
>> need to change them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Em-dashes are always converted to double dashes when going to Daisy.
>> Double dashes are preserved as double dashes. Single dashes are preserved
>> as single dashes.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is all new information to me too, so I’m very glad I was able to ask
>> about this stuff. Going forward, please use the above info when
>> proofreading.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>>
>> Madeleine Linares
>>
>> Volunteer Coordinator
>>
>> Bookshare, a Benetech Initiative
>>
>> 650-644-3459
>>
>> volunteer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Learn more about spreading the Sensation Experience attitude
>> Visit our web site at: http://www.sensationexperience.com/
>> Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sensationexperiencepage
>> Follow us on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/sensationexperi
>>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 15:49:48 -0700
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I'm Back
>From: Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>Welcome back. Do you have any hair? I think if I were without my computer
>for any length of time I'd have pulled out all my hair
>Cindy
>
>On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 4:06 AM, Sensation Experience Official <
>sensationexperience.official@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>> I'm just writing to let you know that due to a water spill I had with one
>> of my computers, I was stuck without a computer for a whole month. The only
>> desktop I have access to right wasn't able to get internet until we moved
>> it a few hours ago. I was able to use a disc enclosure to successfully take
>> the Mac apart and plug the hard drive into my desktop and back up all of my
>> data.
>> So, I'm just letting everyone know that I am back now.
>> Take care,
>> -Ulysses
>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list
>> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Madeleine Linares <Madeleinel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Summary of current requirements on handling footn
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 22:54:27 +0000
>
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>
>From: "Deborah Murray" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender
>"blinkeeblink@xxxxxxxxx" for DMARC)
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: instructions for gettting jaws to say hard page b
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 19:01:23 -0400
>
>Here they are:
>***
>
>here's how to get a page break to speak in jaws assuming you are using
>
>word as your editing tool
>
>
>
>1. bring up word
>
>2. press insert d which should bring up the jaws word dictionary file.
>
>3. go to 'add'
>
>4. in the 'word" field, put \012 (backslash)
>
>5. in the replacement field put 'page break" or whatever you'd like jaws to
>
>
>say.
>
>
>
>be sure and save it. You may want to turn off speaking of page and section
>
>breaks in jaws for word.
>
>***
>
>
>
>
>
>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
>Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 6:39 PM
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] instructions for gettting jaws to say hard page
>breaks in word any version
>
>
>
>Hi you guys. Did anyone save the steps I wrote for etting jaws to say page
>break? Could you put them up here again so I can grab them? Thanks
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: "Martha Rafter" <mlhr@xxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Any more new info?
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 19:21:13 -0400
>
>proofers. (That is the time when freelists decided to cut me off from this
>list and I didn’t realize it for ages.) I now have the updates that begin
>with ellipses and the one about footnotes. Are there any more from Madeleine
>that I’ve missed? Thanks so much!
>Marty
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: "Larry Lumpkin" <llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: instructions for gettting jaws to say hard page b
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 19:04:06 -0500
>
>That's way good. Thanks.
>
>
>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Deborah Murray
>(Redacted sender "blinkeeblink@xxxxxxxxx" for DMARC)
>Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 6:01 PM
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: instructions for gettting jaws to say hard
>page breaks in word any version
>
>
>
>Here they are:
>
>***
>
>here's how to get a page break to speak in jaws assuming you are using
>
>word as your editing tool
>
>
>
>1. bring up word
>
>2. press insert d which should bring up the jaws word dictionary file.
>
>3. go to 'add'
>
>4. in the 'word" field, put \012 (backslash)
>
>5. in the replacement field put 'page break" or whatever you'd like jaws to
>
>
>say.
>
>
>
>be sure and save it. You may want to turn off speaking of page and section
>
>breaks in jaws for word.
>
>***
>
>
>
>
>
>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
>Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 6:39 PM
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] instructions for gettting jaws to say hard page
>breaks in word any version
>
>
>
>Hi you guys. Did anyone save the steps I wrote for etting jaws to say page
>break? Could you put them up here again so I can grab them? Thanks
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 22:14:18 -0400
>From: Julia <julia.kulak@xxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: instructions for gettting jaws to say hard page b
>
>Oo! How exciting! I wish you all the luck, and of course lots and lots
>of sales!!!
>Julia
>On 22/05/2014 6:39 PM, Larry Lumpkin wrote:
>>
>> Hi you guys. Did anyone save the steps I wrote for etting jaws to say
>> page break? Could you put them up here again so I can grab them? Thanks
>>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 22:16:35 -0400
>From: Julia <julia.kulak@xxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] sorry, wrong recipient.
>
>Hi list.
> I apologize, as you've probably gathered by now, I sent my message
>to the wrong list.
>Julia
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: "Lisa Cushman" <crysania@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Help with a book
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 19:54:43 -0700
>
>Hello everyone,
>
>
>I am proofing a book that had almost an entire page missing. I recreated
>most of it with Google Books, but it won’t give me anything else. If any
>kind, sighted soul could do am Amazon Peak for me, I would really appreciate
>it. It is:
>
>Banewreaker
>
>By Jaqueline Carey
>
>Page 214
>
>I have recreated up to grave and beautiful, clad in a robe of pale blue
>
>
>
>Or if any kind, blind or sighted soul is a better user of Google Books than
>I, I would appreciate that too.
>
>I have recreated at least ¾ of the page.
>
>If anyone wants to contact me off list about this, I would really appreciate
>it.
>
>
>
>Thanks so much,
>
>Lisa
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 20:06:06 -0700
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: instructions for gettting jaws to say hard page b
>From: Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>I've saved it on my desktop, too
>Cindy
>
>On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Larry Lumpkin <llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> That’s way good. Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>> bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Deborah Murray
>> (Redacted sender "blinkeeblink@xxxxxxxxx" for DMARC)
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 22, 2014 6:01 PM
>> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: instructions for gettting jaws to say
>> hard page breaks in word any version
>>
>>
>>
>> Here they are:
>>
>> ***
>>
>> here's how to get a page break to speak in jaws assuming you are using
>>
>> word as your editing tool
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. bring up word
>>
>> 2. press insert d which should bring up the jaws word dictionary file.
>>
>> 3. go to 'add'
>>
>> 4. in the 'word" field, put \012 (backslash)
>>
>> 5. in the replacement field put 'page break" or whatever you'd like jaws
>> to
>>
>> say.
>>
>>
>>
>> be sure and save it. You may want to turn off speaking of page and
>> section
>>
>> breaks in jaws for word.
>>
>> ***
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>> mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Larry Lumpkin
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 22, 2014 6:39 PM
>> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] instructions for gettting jaws to say hard
>> page breaks in word any version
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi you guys. Did anyone save the steps I wrote for etting jaws to say
>> page break? Could you put them up here again so I can grab them? Thanks
>>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with a book
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 22:26:05 -0500
>
>Do you have your ISBN, Lisa?
>Thanks!
>
>Valerie
>
>On May 22, 2014, at 9:54 PM, Lisa Cushman <crysania@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I am proofing a book that had almost an entire page missing. I recreated
>> most of it with Google Books, but it won’t give me anything else. If any
>> kind, sighted soul could do am Amazon Peak for me, I would really appreciate
>> it. It is:
>> Banewreaker
>> By Jaqueline Carey
>> Page 214
>> I have recreated up to grave and beautiful, clad in a robe of pale blue
>>
>> Or if any kind, blind or sighted soul is a better user of Google Books than
>> I, I would appreciate that too.
>> I have recreated at least ¾ of the page.
>> If anyone wants to contact me off list about this, I would really appreciate
>> it.
>>
>> Thanks so much,
>> Lisa
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: "Lisa Cushman" <crysania@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with a book
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 20:35:22 -0700
>
>Hi Valerie,
>
>
>Marilyn is going to get it from her library this weekend.
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Lisa
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples
>Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 8:26 PM
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with a book
>
>
>
>Do you have your ISBN, Lisa?
>
>
>
>Thanks!
>
>Valerie
>
>
>
>On May 22, 2014, at 9:54 PM, Lisa Cushman <crysania@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>Hello everyone,
>
>
>
>I am proofing a book that had almost an entire page missing. I recreated
>most of it with Google Books, but it won’t give me anything else. If any
>kind, sighted soul could do am Amazon Peak for me, I would really appreciate
>it. It is:
>
>Banewreaker
>
>By Jaqueline Carey
>
>Page 214
>
>I have recreated up to grave and beautiful, clad in a robe of pale blue
>
>
>
>Or if any kind, blind or sighted soul is a better user of Google Books than
>I, I would appreciate that too.
>
>I have recreated at least ¾ of the page.
>
>If anyone wants to contact me off list about this, I would really appreciate
>it.
>
>
>
>Thanks so much,
>
>Lisa
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: "Lisa Cushman" <crysania@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] bold and mdash characters
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 20:39:07 -0700
>
>Hi everyone,
>
>
>I have a couple more questions.
>
>One, how do I create the mdash character in Microsoft word? And for any of
>you notetaker users, can I create it on a notetaker by typing two dashes?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 20:44:07 -0700
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with a book
>From: Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>I can't get to the whole page. I'm only shown this smidgeon:
>gauged the distance as no more than an hour's stop and sighed. "yes. "my
>Lady?" Tanaros paused, his fist
>raised to knock again, when the door …
>
>
>I'm not even sure if this follows what you have or precedes it or ....
>I'll see if I have better luck with B&N
>
>
>On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Do you have your ISBN, Lisa?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Valerie
>>
>> On May 22, 2014, at 9:54 PM, Lisa Cushman <crysania@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I am proofing a book that had almost an entire page missing. I recreated
>> most of it with Google Books, but it won’t give me anything else. If any
>> kind, sighted soul could do am Amazon Peak for me, I would really
>> appreciate it. It is:
>> Banewreaker
>> By Jaqueline Carey
>> Page 214
>> I have recreated up to grave and beautiful, clad in a robe of pale blue
>>
>> Or if any kind, blind or sighted soul is a better user of Google Books
>> than I, I would appreciate that too.
>> I have recreated at least ¾ of the page.
>> If anyone wants to contact me off list about this, I would really
>> appreciate it.
>>
>> Thanks so much,
>> Lisa
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with a book
>From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 22:46:22 -0500
>
>Dear Lisa;
>There were no real significant peaks on Amazon, so I went back to Google books
>and the whole page was there for me. I could not fix the quotes in my email
>program to be straight quotes, but otherwise you should be able to paste the
>text and simply format the size. I believe this is the information you need:
>
>grave and beautiful, clad in a robe of pale blue. “So you would permit me a
>glimpse of sky."
>“I would.”
>“Thank you.” Cerelinde inclined her head. “I would like that.”
>Meara hissed through her teeth, stamping into the quarters beyond and
>returning with a pearl-white shawl, woven fine as gossamer. “Here,” she
>muttered, thrusting it at Cerelinde. “You’ll take a chill, Lady.”
>Thank you, Meara.” The Lady of the Ellyon smiled at the madling.
>“Don’t.” She bit her lip, drawing a bead of blood, then whirled on Tanaros. “I
>told you it was a mistake to bring
>
>Let me know if you need anything else… Hope this helps!
>
>Valerie
>
>On May 22, 2014, at 9:54 PM, Lisa Cushman <crysania@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I am proofing a book that had almost an entire page missing. I recreated
>> most of it with Google Books, but it won’t give me anything else. If any
>> kind, sighted soul could do am Amazon Peak for me, I would really appreciate
>> it. It is:
>> Banewreaker
>> By Jaqueline Carey
>> Page 214
>> I have recreated up to grave and beautiful, clad in a robe of pale blue
>>
>> Or if any kind, blind or sighted soul is a better user of Google Books than
>> I, I would appreciate that too.
>> I have recreated at least ¾ of the page.
>> If anyone wants to contact me off list about this, I would really appreciate
>> it.
>>
>> Thanks so much,
>> Lisa
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with a book
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 22:48:26 -0500
>
>Lisa & Marilyn;
>Sorry I did not see this until after I sent you everything, but I assume that
>won’t be a problem. Wink.
>
>Hope everyone has a great holiday weekend!
>
>Valerie
>
>On May 22, 2014, at 10:35 PM, Lisa Cushman <crysania@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Valerie,
>>
>> Marilyn is going to get it from her library this weekend.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lisa
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: "Lisa Cushman" <crysania@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with a book
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 20:49:10 -0700
>
>Ooh that’s so helpful!!! Thanks so much.
>Now I can move on with this book.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples
>Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 8:46 PM
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Cc: Lisa Cushman
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with a book
>
>
>
>Dear Lisa;
>
>
>
>There were no real significant peaks on Amazon, so I went back to Google
>books and the whole page was there for me. I could not fix the quotes in my
>email program to be straight quotes, but otherwise you should be able to
>paste the text and simply format the size. I believe this is the information
>you need:
>
>
>
>grave and beautiful, clad in a robe of pale blue. “So you would permit me a
>glimpse of sky."
>
>“I would.”
>
>“Thank you.” Cerelinde inclined her head. “I would like that.”
>
>Meara hissed through her teeth, stamping into the quarters beyond and
>returning with a pearl-white shawl, woven fine as gossamer. “Here,” she
>muttered, thrusting it at Cerelinde. “You’ll take a chill, Lady.”
>
>Thank you, Meara.” The Lady of the Ellyon smiled at the madling.
>
>“Don’t.” She bit her lip, drawing a bead of blood, then whirled on Tanaros.
>“I told you it was a mistake to bring
>
>
>
>Let me know if you need anything else… Hope this helps!
>
>Valerie
>
>
>
>On May 22, 2014, at 9:54 PM, Lisa Cushman <crysania@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>Hello everyone,
>
>
>
>I am proofing a book that had almost an entire page missing. I recreated
>most of it with Google Books, but it won’t give me anything else. If any
>kind, sighted soul could do am Amazon Peak for me, I would really appreciate
>it. It is:
>
>Banewreaker
>
>By Jaqueline Carey
>
>Page 214
>
>I have recreated up to grave and beautiful, clad in a robe of pale blue
>
>
>
>Or if any kind, blind or sighted soul is a better user of Google Books than
>I, I would appreciate that too.
>
>I have recreated at least ¾ of the page.
>
>If anyone wants to contact me off list about this, I would really appreciate
>it.
>
>
>
>Thanks so much,
>
>Lisa
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: "Lisa Cushman" <crysania@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with a book
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 20:50:19 -0700
>
>Thanks for trying. Valerie got it.
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Lisa
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy Rosenthal
>Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 8:44 PM
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with a book
>
>
>
>I can't get to the whole page. I'm only shown this smidgeon:
>
>gauged the distance as no more than an hour's stop and sighed. "yes. "my
>Lady?" Tanaros paused, his fist
>
>raised to knock again, when the door …
>
>
>
>I'm not even sure if this follows what you have or precedes it or ....
>
>I'll see if I have better luck with B&N
>
>
>
>On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>Do you have your ISBN, Lisa?
>
>
>
>Thanks!
>
>Valerie
>
>
>
>On May 22, 2014, at 9:54 PM, Lisa Cushman <crysania@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>Hello everyone,
>
>
>
>I am proofing a book that had almost an entire page missing. I recreated most
>of it with Google Books, but it won’t give me anything else. If any kind,
>sighted soul could do am Amazon Peak for me, I would really appreciate it. It
>is:
>
>Banewreaker
>
>By Jaqueline Carey
>
>Page 214
>
>I have recreated up to grave and beautiful, clad in a robe of pale blue
>
>
>
>Or if any kind, blind or sighted soul is a better user of Google Books than I,
>I would appreciate that too.
>
>I have recreated at least ¾ of the page.
>
>If anyone wants to contact me off list about this, I would really appreciate
>it.
>
>
>
>Thanks so much,
>
>Lisa
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 20:51:01 -0700
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with a book
>From: Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>Yay, Valerie! because B&N was no help. I was going to try Google next but
>I'm not sure I remember how to do it, so it's a good thing you did it. and
>perhaps you could post here, or write me instructions off list so I can be
>more help next time
>Cindy
>
>On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Dear Lisa;
>>
>> There were no real significant peaks on Amazon, so I went back to Google
>> books and the whole page was there for me. I could not fix the quotes in my
>> email program to be straight quotes, but otherwise you should be able to
>> paste the text and simply format the size. I believe this is the
>> information you need:
>>
>> grave and beautiful, clad in a robe of pale blue. “So you would permit me
>> a glimpse of sky."
>> “I would.â€
>> “Thank you.†Cerelinde inclined her head. “I would like that.â€
>> Meara hissed through her teeth, stamping into the quarters beyond and
>> returning with a pearl-white shawl, woven fine as gossamer. “Here,†she
>> muttered, thrusting it at Cerelinde. “You’ll take a chill, Lady.â€
>> Thank you, Meara.†The Lady of the Ellyon smiled at the madling.
>> “Don’t.†She bit her lip, drawing a bead of blood, then whirled on
>> Tanaros. “I told you it was a mistake to bring
>>
>> Let me know if you need anything else… Hope this helps!
>>
>> Valerie
>>
>> On May 22, 2014, at 9:54 PM, Lisa Cushman <crysania@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I am proofing a book that had almost an entire page missing. I recreated
>> most of it with Google Books, but it won’t give me anything else. If any
>> kind, sighted soul could do am Amazon Peak for me, I would really
>> appreciate it. It is:
>> Banewreaker
>> By Jaqueline Carey
>> Page 214
>> I have recreated up to grave and beautiful, clad in a robe of pale blue
>>
>> Or if any kind, blind or sighted soul is a better user of Google Books
>> than I, I would appreciate that too.
>> I have recreated at least ¾ of the page.
>> If anyone wants to contact me off list about this, I would really
>> appreciate it.
>>
>> Thanks so much,
>> Lisa
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with a book
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 23:33:39 -0500
>
>Cindy and other sighted volunteers, I just went to my address bar and typed
>in: books.google.com and then in the search box typed in the name of the book,
>selected the book, then I pasted in the text that Lisa gave me inside
>quotation marks and the whole page happened to come up. I have to say that is
>the first time that is ever happened in my using Google books.
>Hope this helps!
>
>Valerie
>
>On May 22, 2014, at 10:51 PM, Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Yay, Valerie! because B&N was no help. I was going to try Google next but
>> I'm not sure I remember how to do it, so it's a good thing you did it. and
>> perhaps you could post here, or write me instructions off list so I can be
>> more help next time
>> Cindy
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> Dear Lisa;
>>
>> There were no real significant peaks on Amazon, so I went back to Google
>> books and the whole page was there for me. I could not fix the quotes in my
>> email program to be straight quotes, but otherwise you should be able to
>> paste the text and simply format the size. I believe this is the information
>> you need:
>>
>> grave and beautiful, clad in a robe of pale blue. “So you would permit me a
>> glimpse of sky."
>> “I would.”
>> “Thank you.” Cerelinde inclined her head. “I would like that.”
>> Meara hissed through her teeth, stamping into the quarters beyond and
>> returning with a pearl-white shawl, woven fine as gossamer. “Here,” she
>> muttered, thrusting it at Cerelinde. “You’ll take a chill, Lady.”
>> Thank you, Meara.” The Lady of the Ellyon smiled at the madling.
>> “Don’t.” She bit her lip, drawing a bead of blood, then whirled on Tanaros.
>> “I told you it was a mistake to bring
>>
>> Let me know if you need anything else… Hope this helps!
>>
>> Valerie
>>
>> On May 22, 2014, at 9:54 PM, Lisa Cushman <crysania@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I am proofing a book that had almost an entire page missing. I recreated
>>> most of it with Google Books, but it won’t give me anything else. If any
>>> kind, sighted soul could do am Amazon Peak for me, I would really
>>> appreciate it. It is:
>>> Banewreaker
>>> By Jaqueline Carey
>>> Page 214
>>> I have recreated up to grave and beautiful, clad in a robe of pale blue
>>>
>>> Or if any kind, blind or sighted soul is a better user of Google Books than
>>> I, I would appreciate that too.
>>> I have recreated at least ¾ of the page.
>>> If anyone wants to contact me off list about this, I would really
>>> appreciate it.
>>>
>>> Thanks so much,
>>> Lisa
>>
>>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 23:39:32 -0500
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] OT: Maples family update
>
>Dear fellow Bookshare volunteers;
>
>I am sorry that we have been so absent for the past several months, but it has
>been a true roller coaster in our house. The Reader’s Digest version is that
>after an extended stay in the hospital with a few medical mishaps, Doug came
>home with a tracheostomy on a ventilator. He continues to improve at home,
>much more quickly than anyone anticipated, but it is a lot of nursing and it
>has only been recently that he is able to talk. Unfortunately he still does
>not have enough voice to run his environmental control or computer. Getting
>closer, but unfortunately while he was in the hospital’s hard drive crashed
>and it is not ready, anyway.
>
>On top of that, Nichole has had two recurrences of her spinal infection and
>now has a new problem spot at her tailbone. She has lost a significant amount
>of weight, and we are looking for ideas from the wound nurse who has been
>contacted.
>
>Complicating matters further was the fact that Doug lost his services because
>he was in the hospital over 30 days and we are still waiting to be reinstated
>so we are paying for help out of pocket. Unfortunately his primary caregiver
>has taken a new job and is only able to come once a week or less to give him a
>bath, and the other one has canceled a lot and today came 30 minutes late with
>two children, one of them sick. Needless to say, we had to ask her to leave
>early. Nevermind the trauma to our service dog in training.
>
>Welcome to our world. Wink. Have a great Memorial Day weekend everyone!
>
>Valerie
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 21:52:38 -0700
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bold and mdash characters
>From: Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>In word you can go to "Special and insert an em dash, but you don't have to
>-- you can just use 2 dashes which, if Iunderstand correctly, converts to
>an em dash ( or is it the other way around? any way, that's what I've been
>doing; glad to know I don't have to any more but can just leave the em dash
>alone
>cindy
>
>On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Lisa Cushman <crysania@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a couple more questions.
>>
>> One, how do I create the mdash character in Microsoft word? And for any
>> of you notetaker users, can I create it on a notetaker by typing two
>> dashes?
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>End of bksvol-discuss Digest V11 #116
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