Wonder why they didn’t scan.
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: asterisks at the bottom of a page n a print book
They are not at the bottom of every page nor at the end of a chapter
Only this one page ( and I just went to look for them on other pages.
So I'm guessing this is an aberration and maybe I should have waited to ask my
question . Sorry. I'm not going to put them in. If, as I proceed I do find
more I'll go back and put them n when I do pagination check. Cindy
On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 9:57 PM, Valerie Maples <vlmaples1@xxxxxxx
<mailto:vlmaples1@xxxxxxx> > wrote:
I am jumping into this very late, although I have followed the basics of the
discussion. I have not seen if they are at the bottom of every page, but if so
they would be considered decoration (eye candy) or an unnecessary footer. In
the past we were told if it was decorative and non-informational, they could or
should be deleted. If it is just at the end of the chapter, then yes, I would
include it. I apologize if I am speaking out of turn with not having followed
from the beginning.
Valerie
On Sep 12, 2016, at 9:45 PM, Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
I think the general consensus is that if they’re in the print book, then they
should be left in.
Evan
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: assterisks at the bttom of a page n a print book
Vanessa., the asterisks are not at the end of a chapter but are at the end of
the page. In one case next page does start with a new chapter; on the page
that caused me to write, the top of the next page (i.e., under the page number
and heading is simply a sentence that continues the paragraph There is no
change of subject or anything. I suspect the asterisks are merely an
indication to the printer that the page (and text on the page) ends. There are
no asterisks at the end of any chapter (I went back and forward in the book to
check.
So -- should I put the asterisks in?
Cindy
On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 8:27 AM, Vanessa Wai <vanessaw@xxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:vanessaw@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Hi Cindy and All,
Yes, you should add in the asterisks at the end of the chapter.
As much as possible, we are supposed to closely follow the printed book and
only change things to make the book more accessible. Leaving in the asterisks,
or in this case adding them in because they did not scan would be following the
original intention of the author or publisher for the book and would not be
considered a change to the book. This is different from adding in asterisks,
not in the printed book, to indicate a scene change which is something
proofreaders do to help with accessibility. As other have indicated, it is
redundant to add asterisks at the end of the chapter when they are not in the
printed book, which is why we ask proofreaders not to make this change.
I also agree with Lori, please include a note about the asterisks in the
comments when you check in the book. This will help ensure that other people
know that the asterisks were part of the printed book.
Thanks for checking!
Vanessa Wai
Communities Manager
Benetech Global Literacy
480 S. California Avenue, Suite 201
Palo Alto, CA 94306
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Subject: assterisks at the bttom of a page n a print book
The print copy of a book I'm proofing has 3 asterisks at the bottom of the
page; the next page begins with a new chapter and chapter title. The
asterisks didn't scan; should put in the asterisks? There's nothing after
them except the manual page break I'll put in. We're told not to put asterisks
before or after chapter titles; when I do a final pagination check, must I put
in asterisks where I haven't?
I asked on the list and the consensus seems to be tha I should pu them in the
file if they are in the print book. I think we'd all appreciate input from you.
Thanks
Cindy
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