Mayrie, Unfortunately, I used the second method you mentioned. When I got the book from the person they scanned it, that's the way it was. That was before I knew that Bookshare would take away all extra spaces. I guess I'll learn from that. -- Doug -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mayrie ReNae Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:46 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: a really tough decision to make... HI Doug, When you formatted the tables, did you use Word's tool to create an actual table, or did you arrange the text on the screen with tabs and spaces? I ask, because knowing exactly what you did will tell us how to help, and whether to report this problem as a bug to engineering. If you used Word's "text to table" tool and actually created tables in Word, then we definitely have a problem that needs to be talked to engineering about. If you used tabs and spaces to create what visually appeared to be a table, I unfortunately understand why the conversion tools that bookshare uses trashed your work. I grieve the loss right along with you, and wish, as I said to Valerie, that we'd somehow communicated that tabs and extra spaces are stripped by bookshare's conversion tools, as well as any alterations in margin width, and blank lines. Does any of that make sense? If the conversion to tables in Word is resulting in something that is being trashed, we definitely need to tell engineering. I am so, so sorry that your guys' hard work isn't being preserved! I know how frustrating that is! Mayrie -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Maples Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 6:59 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: a really tough decision to make... Lynnsky, After Valerie brought this to my attention, I went back to a couple of books that I have proofed and checked them out to see what the final product looks like after it has been run through Bookshare. I proofed the book Financial Peace Revisited by Dave Ramsey and there were many, many worksheets at the end of the book. I also spent hours and hours formatting the tables for these worksheets, and then when I checked out the book all about work was gone. These worksheets are now worthless. You are unable to line up any columns with headings, because all of the spaces more than 1 between words is deleted. All of my work was done in Word. So, our formatting is not preserved. I do feel bad for anyone who checks out a book and is unable to make sense of it because the formatting has been radically changed from what the original book looked like. They all formatted these books for a reason, but that doesn't seem to matter. When someone is reading a book the structure of the text is very important, especially for the kids as Valerie described. -- Doug -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lynn I Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:39 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: a really tough decision to make... Hi Valerie! I'm so sorry for what you're going through. Our time as volunteers is valuable too. I believe that tables formatted using Word are preserved. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong about this. Blessings. Lynnsky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie Maples" <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:15 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] a really tough decision to make... I had been investing hours and hours in a book, 10 Days to Self Esteem that has many, many tables. Is it even worth submitting since there will be no way to preserve the checklists and tables? I am not seeking sympathy and I am not hurt in that sense, but why waste time if nothing can be done to present the information in a way it can be retained? Or am I missing a tool that would work for that? Valerie To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.44/2475 - Release Date: 11/01/09 19:39:00 To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. 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