Yes, indeed. ----- Original Message ----- From: Guido Corona To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 3:48 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: a frequent appearing word Thank you Jill, your words are very fine music to my ears! Guido Guido D. Corona IBM Accessibility Center, Austin Tx. IBM Research, Phone: (512) 838-9735 Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx Visit my weekly Accessibility WebLog at: http://www-3.ibm.com/able/weblog/corona_weblog.html "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 06/17/2004 02:25 PM Please respond to bksvol-discuss To bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx cc Subject [bksvol-discuss] Re: a frequent appearing word Thank you for that explanation. Next time I see that, I will pay special attention to the words surrounding it, but wouldn't it be better if such symbols were removed either by the scanner, validator or Bookshare with whatever it is they do. I am reading another book right now (not validating) with a rating of excellent. There are very few spelling errors but none of the headers or footers have been erased and there are two sets of numbers. I am learning a great deal from this list but end up with a lot of questions. If I am going to scan or validate, I want the material I submit to be of as good a quality as possible. I love books too much to see poor quality copies, so I don't go along with the idea that quantity is better; I feel too sorry for the mutilated book (that is unless the book was not worth reading in the first place which is a subjective thing, of course). Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: Noel Romey To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 4:44 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: a frequent appearing word There's an odd thing that happens with braille. All punctuation or junk characters are spelled out so ^ becomes caret and \ becomes backslash. SO \ becomes bar in braille, that's what's happening. Ner At 05:02 PM 6/16/2004, you wrote: Is the word spelled 'bar' or you just hear bar? You may be encountering the vertical bar character, which is a junk char, which may be announced as 'bar'. Guido Guido D. Corona IBM Accessibility Center, Austin Tx. IBM Research, Phone: (512) 838-9735 Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx Visit my weekly Accessibility WebLog at: http://www-3.ibm.com/able/weblog/corona_weblog.html "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 06/16/2004 04:11 PM Please respond to bksvol-discuss To bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx cc Subject [bksvol-discuss] a frequent appearing word I am reading a Bookshare book at the present time (not validating) and I frequently encounter the word "bar." This never fits into the context so I assume it is probably a word resulting from the scan. Has anyone else seen this and do you have any idea what causes it? Jill Noel Romey Arkansas, USA View my insights at my live journal: http://djner.livejournal.com