[bksvol-discuss] Re: a book submission rejected, poor me

  • From: <ohio1803@xxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 18:24:41 -0600

Thanks for hearing me, folks.
Sounds like my little rejection is not singling me out at all, is it.
I will try and be more careful about how much I scan, and all. 

And the suggestion about the Book Quality report.
Thanks.
I have not ever done that or really was not savvy to know about it or how to do 
it.
But I will follow up and make that report. 
Makes sense, that unless a report is filed who would know.

Reading your posts, I realize more now about the Penguin deal and the many 
books coming in this way.
That is all good. Love to find a book when I want it, and this is becoming more 
and more the case.

The impact is on us who have done these scans and submissions.

Curious. So how does this separator thing happen exactly then?
the PQ book, is it just delivered as an electronic book?
And is it then evaluated somehow for its quality? Or is it put right in to the 
collection?
It is not scanned, right?
It is not my turf, I am just curious. You folks know a lot more than me.

Rik



From: Judy s. 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 5:58 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: a book submission rejected, poor me

Hi Cindy,

A volunteer BSO can't replace a publisher quality book. In the cases where a 
volunteer submitted book of a title that is already in the collection, or 
enters the collection, as a PQ, and has something it like image descriptions or 
is a totally different edition that is a substantive difference in terms of 
content, it can co-exist in the collection with the PQ book.  If a PQ book 
lacks navigation, then members or volunteers need to submit a book quality 
report on the title and it will get fixed.


Judy s. 
Follow me on Twitter at QuackersNCheese 


On 4/30/2014 6:38 PM, Cindy Rosenthal wrote:

  I agree with Judy and Christina. Rik, if you file a quality report,  maybe 
you can ask Madeleine to accept your book as a BSO to replace the PQ copy. And 
Christina, is the PQ copy of the book you and your proofer did perfect?  So 
often,  I gather they are not -- especially, I  suspect they  lack proper 
navigation formatting. So maybe your book can also replace the PQ copy and you 
and your partner can get your credits.

  Good luck to both of you.

  Cindy




  On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Christina <greensleeves1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

    Hi, Judy.

    Can you at least get the credits for it since it was in the approval queue?

    Christina





    From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judy s.
    Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 4:54 PM
    To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: a book submission rejected, poor me



    Hey, Rik,

    I feel your pain. Four books that I was in the middle of working on with 
another volunteer (one already waiting for approval) showed up as publisher 
quality books yesterday.  Wah! Oh well, none of us could have known (including 
Bookshare) that Penguin would cave and make available almost immediately tens 
of thousands of books. But it is frustrating to lose the time.

    I really encourage you to file a book quality report on the publisher 
quality book regarding the separation of the first letter of each chapter from 
the rest of the word. If we don't file those reports, these things don't get 
fixed and the conversion that Bookshare does of PQ books doesn't improve over 
time.

    Judy s. 
    Follow me on Twitter at QuackersNCheese 

    On 4/30/2014 3:27 PM, ohio1803@xxxxx wrote:

      I am sad, but it is my own fault, I guess. 
      My submission of Man of Constant Sorrow: My Life and Times by Ralph 
Stanley and Eddie Dean, published in 2009. 
      Dang it if I didn't have some bad luck. 
      I had been wanting to read this, I had been watching for it on Bookshare. 
      I get a friend to loan me his copy, and last week I check the Bookshare 
collection just before I start to scan it. 
      I submitted it on Sunday. It was downloaded for proofing on Monday. 
      And it was rejected on Tuesday. 
      What? 
      Sure enough, the proofreader replies to my email query, the reason was it 
was already in the collection. 
      It had been added on April 23! 

      Ain't that just like a sad and lonesome old song? 

      Anyhow, not to whine all too sorrowful. 
      Any suggestions what I can improve so as not to have more rejection 
anxiety? 

      But ....  Here is also what I wanted to mention. 

      My scan had a fix in it that the copy of this book now in the Bookshare 
collection that I just downloaded does NOT. 
      At the beginning of the text in EACH chapter, the enlarged font of the 
first word  in the paragraph is separated from that first word. 

      Example 
      from Chapter Seven.... 

      W 

      e were really on a roll.We had a 

      My submission from my scan fixed that. 
      Maybe it does not matter that much. 

      But as a reader of many books, and a long time big lover and believer in 
Bookshare, I want to pass along that. 
      And ask that it me not so currently an accepted practice in these 
publisher supplied books. 

      I'll try to avoid being rejected. 
      I'll keep on scanning. 
      But wow, my 14-15 hours last week, well I have a copy of my own to read 
anyhow. 

      Thanks. 
      Richard (Rik) James 
      d28rik@xxxxxxx 


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