[bksvol-discuss] Re: Wrote just now to Pavi

  • From: Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx
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  • Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:47:21 EST

Thank you. It is so easy to be misunderstood in an email. Not only did I 
not imagine that I might offend by the reminder of the wish list, but I did 
not imagine that any announcement of not being offended would be necessary 
either.

                                                                            
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Hi, Roger, you know, I did understand where you were coming from. It makes 
me happy to fill in gaps in book series for one thing. I like the sense of 
closure,
second, I benefit because when plots are filled in, nobody has to grieve 
because they don't know what's happening next. Think of this as a service; I'm
the gal that fills in the O's. I started out doing this because of my 
desire to "Know what happens next". The one sort of book I haven't gotten for 
Bookshare
are folksong collections. It may interest me, but I'm not so sure if other 
people would care for that sort of thing. 

I suppose I should search amazon.com for retellings of world myths (The Gree
ks are well-represented so I want the stuff that isn't well-represented.) 
Take
care and best regards, Kim. P.S.: I like the tag line. K.

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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Wrote just now to Pavi

Let me make something clear. I did not urge Kim to spend money on wish list 
books just to make people happy per se. It was simply that she mentioned 
making
people happy as a strong reason for buying books and sending them to 
Bookshare and I suggested that if she was going to spend the money anyway she 
could
be better assured that it would make someone happy if she selected books 
from the wish list to buy. It occurred to me that she might not have thought 
of
that. As for myself, I don't have much money to spend on books, but even 
so, I have bought some for Bookshare myself. In my case, though, given that 
limited
budget, I have bought some books to scan myself and if I am going to put 
all the effort into them that scanning entails my prime criteria for selecting
them is to make me happy. I have put a number of titles on the wish list 
that are a bit too expensive for me and are not available in my local library,
but I have no intention of asking anyone else to spend money on them for 
me. I simply figure that if they are on the wish list they might stand a 
better
chance to make it into the collection by whatever means than if they are 
not there. One of them, in fact, I have my eye on as a possible scan for 
myself.
I just might fulfill one of my own wishes. If, on the other hand, my 
motivation was to just make other people happy by either spending my money or 
time
on books I do think I would look more closely at the wish list for making a 
selection. Even so, though, I would, of course, look for books on the wish
list that I was interested in too and give those priority. I think any of 
us would do that. Whatever the case, though, I just wanted to make it clear 
to
anyone who might have misunderstood that I am not trying to tell anyone how 
to spend their money.  

                                                                      
                    "I have no country to fight for; my country is the earth, 
and
I am a citizen of the world." Eugene V. Debs     

             The Militant: 
http://www.themilitant.com 
Pathfinder Press: 
http://www.pathfinderpress.com
Granma International: 
http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html
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Kim, I think you make people happy by choosing books that make you happy. I 
know Roger's desire is to be helpful and let you know about the wish list.
What
he says makes sense. I think our community is so large and diverse that 
there are bound to be many members who like the things you put into the 
collection.
Yes, we have a large and active wish list. That doesn't mean you 
necessarily want to read or pay for what someone else is wishing for. By 
purchasing 
books
you want to read, you are actively taking steps to fill your own wish list 
requests. You're not adding books to the ever-expanding wish list; you're 
taking
a tangible step toward getting them into the collection. So the net result 
seems to be the same. (smile)  

I think my email may sound somewhat stern. I don't intend that and think I 
should explain why I'm saying these things. The nature of our wish list is 
that
there are some people who have requested over 100 books at a time while 
being unwilling to help get them into the collection, whether through 
volunteering
to proofread or by providing the books to be scanned. I'm not referring to 
people who physically can't volunteer or to people who request books and who
help with the proofreading. In theory, I do want those hundreds of books to 
be added to Bookshare, no matter who requested them, because I want 
everyone
to be able to access any book they wish. Still the reality is that the 
burden of buying, locating, and/or scanning these books falls on our shoulders.
This also means that if we spend our time and money on these books, we 
can't spend our time and money working on books that are important to us. So I 
feel
frustrated when someone says that a volunteer should spend money working on 
the wish list books instead of buying her own to make people happy.  

When I get books from Amazon or Paperback Swap, I tend to get 2 books for 
me and 1 book from the Bookshare wish list. Even then, I primarily use my 
credits
on books I'm willing to read so I can prepare my scan well. I'll take books 
somewhat outside my interests if the request is clearly for a student or an
adult needing a book for their employment.  

I used to try to be totally fair, doing a book for me and then a book for 
someone else, whether I liked it or not. I've taken on books in the past that
didn't interest me at all, and I found that proofreading them was rather 
like pulling out my eyelashes strand by strand. I felt drained and burned out
pretty quickly. Now I focus on what I do well and trust that others with 
interests in other areas will do likewise. Sue and Jill taught me to do this,
and I am so grateful that they taught me how to keep from overwhelming 
myself. 

Monica Willyard

"The best way to predict the future is to create it." -- Peter Drucker 

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