Frankly, I'd rather see a grade level than an either or switch. Makes more sense to me.
Bob"We know the future will outlast all of us, but I believe that all of us will live on in the future we make,"
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Of course I see other issues with such a designation, especially with how it is set up as a one-size on-off. There are lots of books that are entirely inappropriate for a 10 year old, far far fewer for a 16 or 17 year old. I'm not sure there is anything purely text that would produce the reaction in me that the proofing guide uses when talking about such a teen. On 9/1/09, Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx <Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:That could be part of the problem too, but I am suddenly reminded of a funny story. I said that the censor types insist on imposing their own tastes on everyone else. Actually, now that I think about it, it may not even be their own tastes. There was a guy I once knew who was an official at my city's most prominent Presbyterian church. He wasn't a minister and I don't knowexactly what he was, but he had his own private office in the church and he absolutely never appeared in public wearing anything but a gray suit and aneck tie. He was the pillar of the community type. Now, obviously, this is not the kind of person I would hang out with. I only knew him barely and that wasonly because I knew his daughter a lot better. She was a much more regular kind of person. She could party for one thing. Her father's idea of partyingwas probably a stiff formal dinner with the city fathers. Well, the timecame when I got a job as a sales clerk in a porn shop and suddenly he had a pair of automobile floor mats that he wanted to give me. Not only that, buthe wanted to deliver them to me at my place of employment. I assure you, hecould have given them to me elsewhere quite easily or even transmitted themto me through his daughter. When he came into the shop it was all I could do to keep from bursting out laughing. He was trying his best to look nonchalantand appear to ignore the wares on display, but I could see his eyes dartingaround and he was nearly salivating. The mats were obviously an excuse tocheck out the interior of a porn shop. I even felt a little sorry for him. I am sure that he really wanted to open up some of the magazines or watch someof the videos, but the mats did not provide an excuse for that and hecouldn't come up with an excuse. In retrospect I wonder what he would havesaidif I had offered to show him some of those things. Now the issue never cameup, but I knew him and his type well enough that I am sure that if, for example, someone had proposed a city ordinance to shut the store down for"indecency" that he would most likely have been all for such an ordinance.So, yes, censorship is the practice of imposing one's own tastes on everyone else,but it is also the practice of imposing the tastes that one wants everyoneto think one has on everyone else."The end may justify the means as long as there is something that justifiesthe end. " Leon TrotskyThe Militant: http://www.themilitant.com Pathfinder Press:http://www.pathfinderpress.com Granma International: http://granma.cu/ingles/index.html _ table with 2 columns and 6 rows Subj: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Wishlist Request Date: 9/1/2009 10:55:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx Reply-to: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent from the Internet (Details) table end The problem is that because this rating has such a low threshold, and thesubmitter cannot change it, that if a book gets one of those quick proofingjobs, the proof reader may not even check the rating. So the books get into thecollection with an adult rating because the submitter can't change it, andthe proofer may not bother to check. Evan block quote ----- Original Message ----- From: Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:27 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Wishlist Request I think it is both, but since at least the proofreader can change that designation I think it is mostly the latter. The censorship mind set is inherently a mind set that insists on imposing one's own tastes on everyone else. It is known by various names including self-righteousness, holier-than-thou-ness, arrogance and imperiousness. "The endmay justify the means as long as there is something that justifies the end." Leon Trotsky The Militant: http://www.themilitant.com Pathfinder Press: http://www.pathfinderpress.com Granma International: http://granma.cu/ingles/index.html _ table with 2 columns and 6 rows Subj: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Wishlist Request Date: 9/1/2009 9:03:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx Reply-to: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent from the Internet (Details) table end The adult content scan must have an incredibly low threshold. That or there are submitters who think no child/teen should read anything more risque than Nancy Drew. On 9/1/09, gwen tweedy <gstweedy@xxxxxxx> wrote:Speaking of books to add to series, I hope one day they get book 3 I can't for the life of me think of what it is but they have Independence and the last in the 4 is Origon in the Wagons west series by Dana Fuller Ross, There are several messing, and to get them whenever is cool, but you actually need the 3rd book to make at least the first 4complete.----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelby Carlson" <kelbycarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:41 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Wishlist RequestDear Booksharians, I would like to request the following be added to the collection: The Wolves of the Calla (The Dark Tower, Book 5)It's the only one in this series that is missing, and I'd really like toread it. --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html --- To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. 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