[bksvol-discuss] Re: Which books count toward the grant?
- From: Carrie Karnos <ckarnos@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:47:42 -0700 (PDT)
Any book written for children or teenagers is considered "educational". We can
all point to various children's books that really aren't educational, but the
whole point of defining "educational" is to avoid having to look at each book
that's in the collection and pass judgment on it. Better to say if a book is in
such-and-such category, then it is (or isn't) educational.
Carrie
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From: siss52 <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 9:42:11 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Which books count toward the grant?
You said teen romance books were okay, so I just do not
get it either.
Sue S.
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From: Carrie Karnos
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Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:13 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Which books count toward the
grant?
Well, in one sense, EVERY book is educational because it teaches or shows
you something you didn't know before. But that doesn't help here, making every
book "educational," so we can throw that definition out.
It's difficult
to know where to draw the line between educational and non-educational. We've
been discussing what an "educational" book consists of, since we got the grant
2
years ago, and going round and round and round about it. Now that the Feds have
signed off on the definition, we're going with it. No turning back.
No
one has explained the logic of why genre fiction counts and romance doesn't
count to me, but maybe it's because most romances are very formulaic, whereas
there's a great variety of plots and situations in the other genre categories.
There are several romances that I've said were educational, and of course all
of
Jane Austen's works are educational and quite romantic. So there are exceptions
to the rule.
Now the librarian has been tasked with coming up with a
definition of a "textbook". Here we go, round and round again!
Whee!
Carrie
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From: Melissa Smith
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Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 4:33:30
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Re: Which books count toward the grant?
I completely agree here,
Roger. Yes, I am a romance fan, though I read most of my romance from NLS, and
my nonfiction from bookshare. Not really sure why, but that's the way it is.
Anyway, if thrillers, science fiction, etc count why not romance. Romance is no
more fictionalized than any of these, and depending on the book, no more adult
than any of these.
Melissa
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I know that this sounds like an indignant question from a romance fan, but I am
not a romance fan. I am just a little stunned and surprised. If thrillers,
horror, mystery and science fiction are considered educational then what the
blue blazes is wrong with romance?
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Date: 10/27/2009 7:01:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: ckarnos@xxxxxxxxx
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> Hi gang,
>
>
A volunteer asked which books qualify for the grant, so I thought maybe there
are others who don't know about this either. This is a quick email to
the
> group, so everyone knows which books count.
>
> To
explain this by what's excluded, all books qualify, except romances, books that
are adult content, and books that proselytize religion. Factual books
>
about religion are fine, since they explain what it's about, but books that
push
agendas at you do not qualify. It doesn't matter where the book comes
>
from - volunteers, outsourcers, publishers, or anywhere else.
>
>
To explain this by what's included, all kiddie books (including teen romances)
are okay, most non-fiction is okay, "good" literature is okay, and
finally,
> at long last, a decision was made, and it was decided that
genre fiction is okay. So books that are mysteries, thrillers, Westerns,
historical fiction,
> science fiction, fantasies, and horror are okay too.
But the minute you add romance to any of the adult genre fiction books, the
book
doesn't count towards
> the grant.
>
> Of course, there will
always be edge cases. We look at those books on a case-by-case basis, and
sometimes ask the Bookshare librarian for a decision.
>
> I would
encourage those people who are scanning and proofing romances to continue to do
so. We at the office can't put any in, since all of our time has
> to go
towards fulfilling the grant. But there are lots and lots of people who like
romance and want to see more of it in the collection. Please continue
> to
put romances in! The Bookshare publisher liaison mentioned that while most of
the book markets dropped when the economy dropped, the romance market
> is
continuing to climb. So there you are.
>
> HTH, Carrie
>
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