[bksvol-discuss] Re: Which books count toward the grant?

  • From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:41:50 -0700 (PDT)

I can  make a guess that some genres like science fiction and mysteries are 
taught in college courses and some are required reading in high school English 
classes. I've never seen an out-and-out-, or should I say modern romance, be 
required reading though of course, classics like Jane Austen and the Bronte 
sisters--"considered "literature are. I would suspect, too, that these days gay 
fiction would be or his required reading in some college courses, and maybe 
even in in high school.There's one classic  an early  piece of Lesbian fiction; 
I don't remember the title, but it was required reading my my daughter's lit 

Wish List (i.e., books wanted added to the collection) and books-being-scanned 
list available at sites below

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--- On Tue, 10/27/09, Carrie Karnos <ckarnos@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Carrie Karnos <ckarnos@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Which books count toward the grant?
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 8:13 PM
> Well, in one sense, EVERY book
> is educational because it teaches or shows you something you
> didn't know before. But that doesn't help here,
> making every book "educational," so we can throw
> that definition out.
> It's difficult to know where to draw the line between
> educational and non-educational. We've been discussing
> what an "educational" book consists of, since we
> got the grant 2 years ago, and going round and round and
> round about it. Now that the Feds have signed off on the
> definition, we're going with it. No turning back.
> No one has explained the logic of why genre fiction counts
> and romance doesn't count to me, but maybe it's
> because most romances are very formulaic, whereas
> there's a great variety of plots and situations in the
> other genre categories. There are several
>  romances that I've said were educational, and of
> course all of Jane Austen's works are educational and
> quite romantic. So there are exceptions to the rule.
> Now the librarian has been tasked with coming up with a
> definition of a "textbook". Here we go, round and
> round again! Whee!
> Carrie
> From:
> Melissa Smith <mdsmith25@xxxxxxxx>
> To:
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> October 27, 2009 4:33:30 PM
> Subject:
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Which books count toward the grant?
> I completely agree here, Roger. Yes, I am a romance fan,
>  though I read most of my romance from NLS, and my
> nonfiction from bookshare. Not really sure why, but
> that's the way it is. Anyway, if thrillers, science
> fiction, etc count why not romance. Romance is no more
> fictionalized than any of these, and depending on the book,
> no more adult than any of these.
> Melissa
> Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx
> wrote:
> > I know that this sounds like an indignant question
> from a romance fan, but I am not a romance fan. I am just a
> little stunned and surprised. If thrillers, horror, mystery
> and science fiction are considered educational then what the
> blue blazes is wrong with romance?
> > 
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> > Hi gang,
> > 
> > A volunteer asked which books qualify for the grant,
> so I thought maybe there are others who don't know about
> this either. This is a quick email to the
> > group, so everyone knows which books count.
> > 
> > To explain this by what's excluded, all books
> qualify, except romances, books that are adult content, and
> books that proselytize
>  religion. Factual books
> > about religion are fine, since they explain what
> it's about, but books that push agendas at you do not
> qualify. It doesn't matter where the book comes
> > from - volunteers, outsourcers, publishers, or
> anywhere else.
> > 
> > To explain this by what's included, all kiddie
> books (including teen romances) are okay, most non-fiction
> is okay, "good" literature is okay, and finally,
> > at long last, a decision was made, and it was decided
> that genre fiction is okay. So books that are mysteries,
> thrillers, Westerns, historical fiction,
> > science fiction, fantasies, and horror are okay too.
> But the minute you add romance to any of the adult genre
> fiction books, the book doesn't count towards
> > the grant.
> > 
> > Of course, there will always be edge cases. We look at
> those books on a case-by-case basis, and sometimes ask the
> Bookshare librarian for a decision.
> > 
> > I would
>  encourage those people who are scanning and proofing
> romances to continue to do so. We at the office can't
> put any in, since all of our time has
> > to go towards fulfilling the grant. But there are lots
> and lots of people who like romance and want to see more of
> it in the collection. Please continue
> > to put romances in! The Bookshare publisher liaison
> mentioned that while most of the book markets dropped when
> the economy dropped, the romance market
> > is continuing to climb. So there you are.
> > 
> > HTH, Carrie
> > 
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