Even though it might not do any good, I would contact Bookshare directly if I were you. Since they know who the validator was, they would be in a position to write a polite note pointing out the discourtesy. I had a similar experience and I did contact Bookshare but at that time they were not willing to go further with it. I think if enough of us have similar experiences, however, they would face up to the responsibility, at least I hope so. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Belville" <lisab12@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: What to do with Validation Vultures
Hi, Tracy.I think that's very reasonable. Several months on step 1 is very different than say a few hours, which is about how long the 2 books were on step 1, probably less than that as they expired sometime yesterday afternoon.Like I said before, the person doing it is probably not on either of the Bookshare lists. I don't think anyone here would purposely do this because we all respect the mission of Bookshare and are aware of the hard work necessary to scan and validate books so they reflect positively on Bookshare.Take care, Lisa----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione@xxxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 7:31 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: What to do with Validation VulturesHi Lisa. Sorry to hear of your woes. I've had that happen too, and it's veryannoying. Or I've validated one copy very carefully, and someone else hasvalidated a duplicate copy very casually, and put it up before my copy. But anyway. I do look at the history, and give the "time expired" people a fair chance, though usually not more than a week. But I do sometimes take a "hold for" if it's been sitting on Step1 for a while. I've seen some of those guys sit around for ages, and I start to wonder if perhaps the "hold for" person hasn't got tied up in something else, like, say, school, family, etc., and isn't getting back any time soon. So, while I do try to respect the "hold for", I'm not going to respect it forever. Sorry if that bugs people. TracyGood Friday all.I hate to start off the day on a negative note, but I just discovered that two books which I had committed to validating have been validated and areawaiting administrator approval.The frustrating thing is that I only missed renewing them by a few hours.That's right... They expired yesterday and someone has already snapped them up and validated them.. It's not like they languished on step 1 for months. The books were The Taken by Sarah Pinborough Borderlands Thomas F. Monteleone.Both books were clearly designated with "Hold for Lisa Belville" in theirtitle. I'd like to point out that downloading a book that has the "Hold For"designation in the title is a tad dishonest, not to mention being in very poor taste. Many of us are trying to earn credits toward our membership,so while it may seem tempting to download a book with the "Hold For" Designation, it's not exactly fair to those of us who are counting on earning those credits. If I am looking for something to download from step 1, I always look at the validation history. If the book was returned because the edit time expired, and the expiration date has occurred within the past week or two, I will look for something else to download. This gives the original person the chance to renew the book and earn their credit. This is just common courtesy, in my opinion.I'm probably preaching to the choir as most of us who care enough to be onthese lists most likely wouldn't do this type of thing, but I feel likesomething needs to be said since it's not the first time this has happenedto myself and others. Sorry for the snarkiness, I've been up all night validating and I was counting on uploading these books. Lisa Paper clip: The larval stage of coat hangers. Lisa Belville lisab12@xxxxxxxxxxx y2kkong@xxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a listof available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.-- No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.22/922 - Release Date: 7/27/2007 6:08 AM
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