# [bksvol-discuss] Re: What braces look like in print (was Re: Re: Proofing: Is this correct?)

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• Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 23:01:42 -0500

```Thanks Judy.  I found my brackets which was the symbol Madeleine wants me to
use for [blank page].  Thanks for your wonderful description of these
symbols in print.

Reggie

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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judy s.
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 9:07 PM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] What braces look like in print (was Re: Re:
Proofing: Is this correct?)

Hi Reggie,

In appearance, brackets are parenthesis that went to a military academy to
make them straight and precise with right angles instead of gentle curves.
grin.  Parentheses are curved, as if you took and erased the top and bottom
of a circle, leaving the left and right side of a circle.  Brackets are made
from a square, as if you took and erased the middle out of the top and
bottom of a square box, leaving the left and right hand sides and a bit of
the top and the bottom of the box on each side.

One way to feel the shapes might be as follows.  To feel the shape of a left
brace, hold a rectangular cereal box in front of you in your right hand,
with the broadest side of the box facing you, and the top of the box facing
the ceiling.  Put your index finger of your left hand in the middle of the
top of the box.  Run your finger across the top of the box towards your
left, then run your finger down the left side of the box, then go to the
right and run your finger across the bottom of the box.  That's the shape
that a left hand brace takes, the brace that corresponds to a left
parenthesis.  Now, hold the cereal box in front of you in your left hand,
again with the broadest side of the box facing you.  Put your index finger
of your right hand in the middle of the top of the box.  Run your finger
across the top of the box towards your right, then run your finger down the
right side of the box, then go to the left and run your finger across the
bottom of the box.  That's the shape that a right hand brace takes, the
brace that corresponds to a right parenthesis.

Judy s.
On 11/30/2012 6:40 PM, Regina Alvarado wrote:

Thanks all.  I had a major headache which Tylenol has now dwindled to
slight.  I knew what I was putting down but probably wrote the wrong word
for it.  When I got responses to both what I did and to my word, I kind of
flipped out.  Sorry.  I am really working on doing it correctly.

Well, I have never had to put in the designation before but had seen it
written by others.  I actually had to play a little with my keyboard to see
where the brackets were.  I never have used them before myself in writing,
and I never had occasion to use them at work.  What do they look like in
print compared to the parenthesis? Now I am curious.  After searching
though, I sure won't forget where they are on the keyboard.  Now I will
never get another book that I need to put [Blank Page] in.

Reggie

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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lori Castner
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 5:07 PM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Proofing: Is this correct?

Reggie,

The asterisks or stars are the correct symbol.  I do not know where the
discussion of ellipses came from.  Some books may use them to indicate
change of scene, but this list has always used asterisks.

This list should be helpful not confusing.  The amount of confusion that
seems to have erupted recently concerns me.

Lori C.

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Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 1:29 PM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Proofing: Is this correct?

Ug! Confused once again! Maybe this just getting to be too much for me? I
just uploaded having put * * * between change of scenery lines.  Probably
will get it back! Ug.  Someday maybe I will understand, but have a headache
supposed to be like this?

Line of text

. . .

Line of text

The utterly confused, hurting and tired one

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Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 1:11 PM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Proofing: Is this correct?

Except for one thing. The ellipsis is to be treated as a word. If it is at
the end of a sentence it consists of the three dots and then an additional
period for a total of four dots. If it indicates a change of scenery or
scene it is still treated that way and with no asterisks. A change of scene
may be indicated with an ellipsis or it may be indicated with a blank line
or it may be indicated with both. The three asterisks are to be used when
there is a blank line that we want to retain though. Most often that is an
indication of a passage of time or an indication of scene, but it does not
necessarily have to be. Whatever it indicates it is replaced with three
asterisks. It has nothing to do with the ellipsis.

On 11/29/2012 11:41 PM, Sandi Ryan wrote:

Hi Reggie,

This looks correct to me for a book where the page numbers are at the
bottom.

Sandi

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Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:43 PM

Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Proofing: Is this correct?

Received a book back for more editing.  Before I send back, I am trying to
proof the new way.  Want to know if this is correct.  I understand about the
font and points.  However, have a few other questions:

1.      When putting an ellipsis to denote change of scenery it is done like
this?

Line of text

* * *

Line of text

2.      If the number is at the bottom of the page it is done like this?

Last Line of text on a page

page number

Page break

3.      When there is a chapter name (understanding bolding and points and
fon) it is set up like this?

First line below page break

Chapter number and title

First line of text

4.      When there is the start of a new page it is done like this.

Line at top of page

First line of text

I will say thanks to anyone who helps.  Want to get this book up and not
have it come back for even more editing.

Reggie

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