[bksvol-discuss] Re: Using Our Validation Resources Wisely

  • From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:23:21 -0500

would this tool know the difference between using umlauts or just adding an e? <grin> Rise and Fall adds e-s where there might otherwise have been an umlaut.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:03 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Using Our Validation Resources Wisely


Cindy, Actually when submitting a book, the submitter gives it a rating. When the validator uploads the book, that's when the Bookshare utility gives it a rating based, I assume, primarily on spelling and scanning errors. At that time the validator can upgrade the book and I am told they can also downgrade it. What some of us are suggesting is that this same tool be used at the time of submitting the book to help eliminate this subjective evaluation. Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 2:32 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Using Our Validation Resources Wisely


Gary,

As I understand it, it's up to the validator to give
the final quality rating. I've seen an automatic Adult
rating given, and validators have the option of
changing it when they upload, but the only quality
rating I've seen is the one put there when the book is
submitted, and the validator should change it if it is
not correct because of foreign names. smile

G.Cindy
--- Gary Petraccaro <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

If i'm understanding you, this might not work.  If
one uploaded a history
with lots of capitalized names, even if correct, how
would that be rated?
Rise and Fall of the 3rd Reich comes up with 95.94
and 63xx unrecognized
names/words.  Btw, I reversed the page numbers, it
was 1615.  <grin>

I have no idea.

----- Original Message ----- From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 7:31 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Using Our Validation
Resources Wisely


>I just rejected a history book submitted in kes.
The submitter did not old
>down the spine of the book resulting in sentences
with chopped off words.
>When I brought it up in kurzweil it said it had a
rank spelling rating of
>96%. I knew that included a lot of capitalized
names. I soon found the
>rating also included a lot of the word fragments
resulting from the binding
>not being held down enough.
>
> Perhaps the software can evaluate a book when it
is updated. If the book's
> rating falls below some level of accuracy the book
can be prevented from
> entering step 1 and be hand evaluated as I
suggested in another message.
> Folks whose books repeatedly need such treatment
and who refuse to take
> input from others to improve ought to be asked to
learn how to create
> better scans before submitting more.
>
> E.
>
> At 06:24 AM 11/24/2007, you wrote:
>>Hi Carrie,
>>
>>         The computer rates the books when the
validator accepts them.
>> When the submitter submits a book, he/she chooses
the rating for the
>> book, arbitrarily.  I'd be thrilled if, when
submitting a book, the
>> computer would rate it, and in the case of crummy
scans, just reject them
>> before they ever get submitted.
>>
>>Peace,
>>Mayrie
>>
>>At 09:56 PM 11/23/2007, you wrote:
>>>I thought that the computer rates it, and then
the uploader can change it
>>>if he/she wants to.  Isn't that right?
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----
>>>From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 6:44:02 PM
>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Using Our
Validation Resources Wisely
>>>
>>>Mike,
>>>
>>>I don't think the cornputer (deliberate--I'm
feeling
>>>silly--I wonder what was in the stuffing; or I
could
>>>say my em key disappeared )rates the book when
it's
>>>uploaded after validation. Either the submitter's
>>>rating stays because the validator doesn't bother
to
>>>change it when uploading, which happens, or the
>>>validator him/herself rates it.
>>>
>>>Carrie or someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>
>>>G.Cindy
>>>
>>>--- Mike and Lori Castner

<<mailto:mandlcastner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>mandlcastner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi Jamie,
>>> > I agree.  Why can't they set things up so the
>>> > computer rates the book the same way it does
when
>>> > the validator is finished with it.  It would
make
>>> > things easier for the submitter of the book
and the
>>> > validator would have a better idea of how
rough the
>>> > book might be.
>>> > Mike
>>> >  ----- Original Message -----
>>> >  From: Jamie Yates, CPhT
>>> >  To:

<mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >  Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 9:35 PM
>>> >  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Using Our
Validation
>>> > Resources Wisely
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >  You cannot even submit a book unless you
check a
>>> > rating now. It keeps tripping me up because I
think
>>> > it's in a different place than I'm used to
looking
>>> > for it.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >  Jamie in Michigan
>>> >  Currently Reading - When Santa Fell to Earth
by
>>> > Cornelia Funke
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>

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