I'm glad you're so conscientious. I check any troublesome text with my Optacon. If I didn't have that, I doubt I would submit anything to Bookshare, nor validate either. My DP condition would never let me. <smile>
Evan----- Original Message ----- From: "Katie Hill" <kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 8:35 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Tolkien
HI Evan,This was a hard back from the library. I have read up to about page 125 and most of it is interesting. Since I have it scanned I can go ahead and submitit as is. I have all the images so I can help do corrections.Actually I am currently having Cindy check a few pages in Let the good times roll by sending her the image files and a doc file with the recognized page in it. It dawned on me a week or two ago this could be an easier way to getpages checked. IT is also the reason I have always saved images to be able to go back and re-recognize a page. The joy of life is living in the question Katie Hill Kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Reese Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 8:22 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Tolkien It is the same volume, although I do not know whether it is the sameedition, because I was planning to borrow the book from someone and I don'tknow what their ISBN is. Is your version a hardback or paperback? What do you think of it? Evan----- Original Message ----- From: "Katie Hill" <kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 7:49 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: TolkienHi Evan,I have this book scanned, I think. I haven't uploaded it because I haven'tfinished proof reading. Is this the same one you are planning on scanning??? From the copyright page.Copyright © 1988 by Frank Richard Williamson and Christopher Reuel Tolkienas Executors of the Estate of J.R.R. Tolkien All rights reserved For information about permission to reproduce selections from this book, write to Permissions, Houghton Mifflin Company, 2 Park Street, Boston, Massachusetts 02108. Library of Congress Cataloging-in-Publication Data Tolkien, J. R. R. (John Ronald Reuel), 1892-1973. The return of the shadow : the history of The lord of the rings / J.R.R. Tolkien ; [edited by] Christopher Tolkien. p. cm. - (The History of Middle-earth ; 6) Includes index. ISBN 0-395-49863-5 1. Tolkien, J.R.R. (John Ronald Reuel), 1892-1973. Lord of the rings-Criticism, Textual. 2. Fantastic fiction, English-History and criticism. 3. Middle Earth (Imaginary place) I. Tolkien, Christopher. II. Title. III. Series: Tolkien, J. R. R. (John Ronald Reuel), 1892-1973 History of Middle-earth ; 6. PR6039.O32L6374 1988 88-22986 823'.912-dcl9 CIP Printed in the United States of America FFG 11 10 9 8 7 is a trademark of Frank Richard Williamson and Christopher Reuel Tolkien, executors of the Estate of the late John Ronald Reuel Tolkien. The joy of life is living in the question Katie Hill Kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Reese Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 4:21 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Tolkien I expect to start scanning Volume Six of The History of Middle-earth - whichbegins the history of the Lord of the Rings - as soon as it shows up in mymailbox, hopefully some time next week. I had intended to take the History volumes in order, meaning that I would next scan volume four, but volumes four and five look like being very troublesome jobs, mainly because of there being quite a lot of Old and Middle English in Volume Four according to what I have read, which does not scan properly, and an Elvish English dictionary in Volume Five, which will be a tremendous amount of work to get into shape. I will get around to them one day, but I am eager to start reading about Tolkien's writing of The Lord of the Rings, which I expect more people will be interested in anyway, so I have elected to not scan volumes four and five for now at least. Perhaps someone else might be willing to take them on, and I would like to read them, but I am impatient to get to Volume Six myself. Evan----- Original Message ----- From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 7:47 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] TolkienDear Kelby, Katie, and Tolkien Fans, Kelby, several of us are Tolkien fans. We've been adding to Bookshare's Tolkien collection and submitting BSOs of books were already in the collection which needed to be improved. My contribution has been validating and if there isn't a scanner's hall offame, we need one so the Volunteers who have been scanning Tolkien can becharter inductees. Whew, where to start. Books we've completed and that you can count on for accuracy and completeness include; The Book of Lost Tales, Volume One rescanned by Evan Reese. The Book of Lost Tales Volume Two, rescanned by Pratik Patel The Tolkien Biography scanned by Carrie Carnos and validated by Evan Reese The Children of Huron, the newest book prepared by Christopher Tolkien wasscanned in house and Carrie Carnos not only validated it, but undertook the tedious task of inserting all of the accents which aren't recognized by most scanning equipment.The Silmarrilion, the latest edition, scanned by Katie Hill and scheduledto be uploaded by next week when I unravel the 5 pages of genealogies.The History of Middle-earth Volume three, all poetry, has been scanned byEvan and is next in line for me to format and validate. We have 2 other Tolkien biographies prepared by other volunteers.I have validated several books of analysis,, criticism and discussion ofThe Lord of the Rings which are in the collection. While taking breaks from the concentration I need to validate the Silmarillion, I'm Currently validating J. R. R. Tolkien's Sanctifying MythUnderstanding Middle-earth by Bradley J. Birzer scanned by Jim Baugh 202 pages with a 12 page index, and more notes than I've ever seen, over 200 in a single chapter. I'm also validating Understanding Middle-earth Essays on Tolkien's Middle-Earth by Michael Martinez, 512 pages scanned by Carrie.Something I'd love to see, but haven't had time to do is set up a Tolkiencategory on Jakes list because not all of the books about Tolkien's work can be found by searching his name. As I've progressed through validating these books, I've worked hard to improve my technique for inserting accents. Tolkien uses the acute,circumflex and umlaut most, but when the files are processed, all accentsin the braille files appear with a dot 4 in front of the accented letter so you can't tell which accent is really there.I've settled on a system where I list all accented words at the beginningof the book with a key matching the accents to numbers. After each word, the numbers appear in the order of the accents. For example 1 = acute 2 = umlaut 3 = circumflex so the following Elvish word would be listed this way. Aldudénië 1, 2 amrûn 3 Anadûnê 3, 3 Most of these words appear from 1 to over 100 times each in the text. To find out exactly what the accents are, readers can look them up in the list. This system isn't perfect, and I could use a proofreader, though I try and triple check my entries. You can see an example of my attempt to clarify the accents in The Book of Lost Tales volume Two. I'll be interested in suggestions. And, if you're interested, I'll e-mail you the list of over 200 accented words for The Silmarillion. Thank you for your patience, Katie. I hope you'll be proud of the finished product when I upload. You picked a beautiful edition of the book to scan and your scan has been a joy to workwith.Amy, I'll write you off list about your offer to help. I've got a pile ofbook for your consideration. Also, I've read the Hobbit and LOTR in braille from NLS so don't know whatshape they are in in Bookshare. Has anyone read our copies? I'm out of time, now, but I hope you'll contact me off list with your comments and suggestions at, airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx----- Original Message ----- From: "Katie Hill" <kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 9:32 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: we Volunteer; Questions and RequestsHI Kelby, I know the Silmarillion is in the validation queue because I rescanned it.The others may be there also. When Lissi sees this post she will let you know what is going on. Lissi and a couple others are working on a longerterm project to get more of Tolkien's works in the collection. The joy of life is living in the question Katie Hill Kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 8:51 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] ew Volunteer; Questions and Requests Dear Fellow Volunteers, My name is Kelby, and I've recently becoce a Bookshare volunteer. I don't know if this was necessary a wise decision on my part, as I don't have a scanner and scanning software, and can't afford them at this time. I can, however, attempt to proofread and validate books if that is needed. In fact, I have just attempted to do so, but ran into a problem when trying to upload the approved book. It said that my RTF file was not a valid RTF file, which I can assure you is not the case. What might I do about this? Secondly, I would like to request that a few books desperately need to be re-scanned. The most important of these works are the collected stories of JddRR. Tolkie. This includes the Lord of the Rings, Silmarillion, and Unfinished Tales. Books I would also love to see added to the collection are the rest of the voluces in the History of Middle Earth series. I have other ideas, but I believe Tolkien's work needs to be scanned again, hopefully making far more readable copies. Hope to hear from you all soon. Kelby Doomed Dragon "It is not what we see that determines who we are. It is how we choose to see it." --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a listof available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. 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