Hi Ken,
I wouldn't go so far as to say bookShare isn't listening. It was just a
while back Janice posted that the egineering team is hard at work attempting
to implement page numbers into the BRF files.
To do this task, the tools bookShare uses must be able to identify the
page numbers, so it is very important that volunteers not attempt to defeat
the automated tools. If the tools correctly identify the page numbers, BRF
and DAISY books will be produced properly.
I'd suggest looking at the HTML copy of any book if you have doubts
about your software's compatibility with DAISY.
Jake
The translation is that, since BookShare will listen to no one, we should
take our problems to others. I have all the devices you mentioned, but I
just can't find the plethora of page numbers you find. I guess I don't read
such advanced books.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Hovas" <geraldhovas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:52 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: To Strip Or Not To Strip
toKenneth,
I don't know if we have many options at this time. I would expect Peterbe better informed than I am, though, so maybe he can answer yourquestion.are
The only two DAISY readers that I know of other than K-1000 and OpenBookhowVictor Reader Soft and FS Reader. Personally, I don't like using Victor Reader Soft, but I have seen it display page numbers, and it can be downloaded from Bookshare. I've never tried FS Reader, so I don't knowthisFreedom Scientific handles page numbers.
Personally, I prefer to forgo DAISY at this time in favor of the HTML file
that can be unpacked with the DAISY files. Since that file is merely an
HTML file, it can be read using Internet Explorer and JAWS. I like being
able to skim passages in books that I've already read using JAWS to fast
forward to the next paragraph. The other nice thing about it is that I've
never seen a book which doesn't have page numbers throughout the text.
Occasionally I see two sets of page numbers, though. My guess is thatallis caused by the Stripper not being able to recognize page numbers, so it assigns page numbers based on a page's location in a file, which, as weknow, may not synch with the page numbers in the book since many booksbeginwhatnumbering the pages with the first page of the prologue or chapter 1.
If many of you are using K-1000 to read the DAISY files as I suspect, and
you aren't able to see page numbers throughout the text as you would like,
then I'd suggest making your wish known to Kurzweil.
Gerald
-----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Kenneth A. Cross Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 2:02 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: To Strip Or Not To Strip
I have asked before, and will use this communication to ask again, justdo I buy to read these daisy files with the page numbers and all. As soonwill
as I get an answer, I will buy whatever brand is recommended to me andreport on my joy at getting all these correct page numbers. Somebody tellit
me what to buy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:29 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: To Strip Or Not To Strip
> Jana, > Sorry to hear you're an evacuee. But what dedication, to bring your > Bookshare stuff with you! > > You seem to be saying that you are protecting page numbers with stars. You > should not. The stripper needs the page numbers to be recognizable so> can put them in the file for Daisy readers (us non-Daisy users are juston
out
> in the cold.) As I understand it, the page number must be on the > first,
or
> last, line of a page, with a blank line below it, or above it, if it's> the bottom. Then, the stripper is supposed to recognize it and, yes,The
strip
> it, putting it into some place for Daisy to see.
>
> What I do with headers, as a validator, is cut out the text portion, > and
> leave the page number, then make sure the number is at the top, with a
blank
> line under it, or at the bottom, with a blank line before it. Clear as
Mud?
>
> What you did with chapter headings sounds fine.
> Tracy
>
> At 11:18 PM 10/6/05 -0500, you wrote:
> >Hi, all! Okay, so life as an evacuee is getting a bit boring, and I
> thought I'd have a little fun with the subject line. <Smile>
> >
> >I'm about to submit a book which I've been working on for a while. I
have
> left the headings in the book for now, and I've protected the chapter
> headings and page numbers with asterisks. The chapter headings have
> asterisks on the very top line of the page, followed by a blank line.> page numbers, which are at the bottom of the page, are followed by ablankthis> line and then about five asterisks. > > > >My question is actually twofold, I guess. Will this be enough to keep the > stripper from going too far? If so, should I go ahead and strip the > headers, replacing them with asterisks? I know we've about discussed> one to death, but since I don't have all of the BookShare posts on mytravel
> laptop, and since I've had just a few things on my mind other than
Bookshare
> for the past week and a half, I thought I'd see if someone could > refresh
my
> memory. Thanks!
> >
> >Jana
> >
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> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm about to submit a book which I've > >been
> working
> >on for a while. I have left the headings in the book for now, > >and
I've
> >protected the chapter headings and page numbers with asterisks. page,> >chapter headings have asterisks on the very top line of the page, followed > by a > >blank line. The page numbers, which are at the bottom of theso,are > >followed by a blank line and then about five asterisks. </FONT></DIV> > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My question is actually twofold, I guess. > >Will this be enough to keep the stripper from going too far? IfI> should > >I go ahead and strip the headers, replacing them with asterisks? myknow > >we've about discussed this one to death, but since I don't have all of the > >BookShare posts on my laptop, and since I've had just a few things onmindvisit
> >other than Bookshare for the past week and a half, I thought I'd see > >if
> someone
> >could refresh my memory. Thanks!</FONT></DIV>
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> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jana</FONT></DIV>
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