[bksvol-discuss] Thoughts on Steve Carper Talk (was: Re: quick reminder)

  • From: "EVAN REESE" <mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:58:14 -0400

Sorry, guys, I forgot to change the subject line of the below message.

Evan

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: EVAN REESE 
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  Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 9:52 AM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: quick reminder


  I agree with you about that.

  Or, perhaps it would be more accurate to say that I disagree with Steve, but 
not totally. There is certainly a lot of SF that I find uninteresting, even 
boring, for many different reasons, not least of which is the fact that so much 
of it really doesn't take account of how the world is changing at an 
accelerating rate. However, there is still enjoyable stuff being written. Even 
some of the stuff that is unrealistic in terms of where I think we are actually 
headed has interest and enjoyment for me. And I do have a great liking for 
space opera, which can't really be taken as a serious examination of possible 
human futures. 

  The heart of his argument seems to have been that SF is dead because people 
have a more pesimistic outlook on the future than they had when SF was born. It 
may be true that the general attitude toward the future may be less optimistic 
than it used to be, but there has been some classic SF written positing very 
downbeat futures. He cited one of those himself in glowing terms, A Canticle 
for Leibowitz, so I think he may be contradicting himself a bit. A great deal 
of the so-called New Wave SF that he praised very highly was pesimistic in 
nature, and he claims that that NEW Wave "revitalized" SF. So I think it is at 
least arguable that the attitude of people towards the future is not 
necessarily relevant to the health of the field.

  Evan

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    From: Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx 
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    Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:40 PM
    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: quick reminder


    This was my first experience with one of those conference rooms and I felt 
lucky that I figured out how to use my microphone so quickly. It was 
disappointing that Steve Carper had such a dismal outlook for science fiction 
even to the point of considering it already dead. It is certainly not dead for 
me.

                    "Philosophers have merely interpreted the world in various 
ways; the point is to change it." Karl Marx    

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    Hi all,

    Just a quick reminder that the presentation of Steve Carper, the Science 
Fiction author will be starting in one hour or slightly less.  Come one, come
    all.

    Ann P.

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