[bksvol-discuss] Re: The case of the proliferating page breaks

  • From: "Kim Friedman" <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 21:46:30 -0700

Hi, Mayrie, just for grins I made a third copy of the original file. I
opened the file, selected all, did the find-and-replace for extraneous
blank lines. It changed Ms. Word's page count from 256 to 255. So your
suggestion helped a little bit but not by much. So what does one do now
after this to get rid of soft page breaks?  Regards, Kim. P.S.: Really
weird, isn't it? K.

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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mayrie ReNae
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Hi Kim

Are all of the page breaks hard page breaks?

If you can't really tell, but you're pretty sure that your problem is
too much white space in big chunks, you can try this:

Open the find and replace dialogue by pressing control plus h In the
find box of the find and replace dialogue type ^p^p^p (That's the caret
followed by the lower case letter p) In the replace box type ^p^p Hit
enter on replace all. Repeat this process until Word tells you you've
made zero replacements.

What you're doing here is eliminating all big chunks of white space, but
keeping single blank lines if they need to be there, which might help to
get rid of soft page breaks if they exist.

And, no, your screen reader isn't causing the problem.

Good luck, and let us know if this helps.

Mayrie

 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kim Friedman
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:16 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] The case of the proliferating page breaks

Hi, I'm working on a document which is kind of peculiar. First of all,
the submitter set the whole thing to custom size (22 inches by 8.5
inches) and the paragraph presentation was set to the usual standard as
mentioned for optimum proofreading. Even though this was apparently the
case, the document when opened in Word 2003 said the file had 256 pages
when the actual page count in the book is 216 pages. I followed this
procedure: 1. Selected the entire document which took me to the bottom
of the file: 2. Entered the format menu and selected the paragraph
settings. My question is how is it possible for one to get into the
paragraph settings and somehow deselect the document so that one isn't
getting the whole file set correctly? I was under the impression when
one selected the entire document and went into the paragraph
presentation dialog boxes that whatever changes one made was supposed to
affect the whole document and not have the internal pages set
differently from what it's supposed to be. Is there some settings in
Word which are configured wrong or is it some peculiarity of the
scanning program or OCR which has messed up this pagination so this
proliferating page break situation occurs? I consulted with Rick Costa
who had the file in front of him. I was told that about ten percent of
the document must have a lot of white space which seemed to cause the
huge amount of page breaks. He is also curious to know if the screen
reader affects the file in any way. I don't think this is so just
because its job is simply to read what is on the monitor screen. I don't
see how an .rtf file or it's opening in MS Word should affect it. I also
don't see why going into the paragraph presentation in the formatting
menu should deselect what was selected. Do any of you know? This would
be very helpful to submitters who turn in files and it would also help
proofreaders who come across this proliferating page break phenomenon.
Regards, Kim Friedman. P.S.: The book I'm working on is Scales of
Retribution by Cora Harrison. (It is the sixth installment of the Burren
mystery series by her.) K.

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