[bksvol-discuss] Re: The Stripper (agai)
- From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 03:01:48 -0400
Folks, I know it is frustrating to find that you might have been the victim
of the automated tools. But, our job is to help bookshare how ever we can.
We have to make sure that we provide the best quality books for our readers.
So let's not try to find ways to defeat tools, but help them.
Pratik
Pratik Patel
Interim Director
Office of Special Services
Queens College
Director
CUNY Assistive Technology Services
The City University of New York
ppatel@xxxxxx
_____
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Guido Corona
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:03 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The Stripper (agai)
Hey folks, this is now going against policy. We are EXPECTED to assist the
stripping process not hinder it.
Thanks,
Guido
Guido Dante Corona
IBM Accessibility Center, Austin Tx.
Research Division,
Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
Pam Quinn <quinns@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
06/05/2005 07:05 PM
Please respond to
bksvol-discuss
To
bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
cc
Subject
[bksvol-discuss] Re: The Stripper (agai)
So it would probably be best for the stripper and the validator to
leave the headers alone, and users can do what they want with search
and replace or whatever once they download the books. Books would be
closer to what you'd get in bookstores that way. But until the
stripper is canned, I hope that most validators will do whatever they
can to defeat it.
Pam
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 17:26:17 -0500, you wrote:
>Hey Julie,
> Isn't that what we are already complaining about? Inconsistancies in
how
>the header stripper seems to work? *grin*
>
>Jake
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Julie Morales" <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 5:07 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The Stripper (agai)
>
>
>> Hi, Cindy. Having the validator strip headers would be good in theory,
but
>> since only the bare minimum is required for validating...yes, many of us
>try
>> to do much more, but since only the bare minimum is required, we'd have
>some
>> validators who wouldn't do it. Then, we'd have people complaining about
>> inconsistencies. *smile* Take care.
>> Julie Morales
>> inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Windows/MSN Messenger (but not email):
>> mercy0421@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> Skype: mercy0421
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 10:39 AM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] The Stripper (agai)
>>
>>
>> I loved both your and Kaitlin's posts--chewable toyrs
>> and flowers.
>>
>> But on a more serious note, perhaps lots of members
>> could go to Peter's members meeting at the NFC meeting
>> this summer and find out what's going on. Peter,will
>> there be an engineer representative there? Can the
>> members find out and pass on the info? Why is the
>> stripper necessary? Validators can easily strip the
>> headers as they read -- many can be stripped by a
>> global replace with nothing? IF the stripper is
>> sripping page numbers and chapter titles even when the
>> headers have been stripped it's doing a disservice
>> rather than performing a service.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> --- "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> > Perhaps we might want to consider that those left in
>> > place partial headers
>> > are part of what non-bookshare members mean when
>> > they talk about having a
>> > lot of extra stuff in a book or poor scans. To
>> > many, extra junk which they
>> > do not want to read is perceived as a poor scan even
>> > if we as volunteers do
>> > not perceive it that way. I know I am being
>> > frivolous here but really this
>> > discussion of a faulty stripper has been going on
>> > for about three years
>> > now. Would the bookshare officials and the leading
>> > manufacturers of ocr
>> > packages such as open book and k1000 please unit to
>> > solve this problem? It
>> > would make us more attractive to new users I think.
>> > So now to be less
>> > compalining I am going back to enjoying all those
>> > books from bookshare.
>> >
>> > Back to reading outside in my garden.
>> >
>> > E.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> __________________________________________________
>> Do You Yahoo!?
>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
>> http://mail.yahoo.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>> Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 6/4/2005
>>
>
Other related posts: