[bksvol-discuss] Re: Submission formats, conversions & a request.
- From: "Pavi Mehta" <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:15:28 -0800
Thanks for that correction Lori.
Hopefully someone with Openbook 8 will be able to help.
All good things,
Pavi
-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lori Castner
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:14 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Submission formats, conversions & a
request.
Pavi,
I was going to convert the touch and blindness book to .rtf, but it is
not
.ark, but a new openbook format. Someone with Openbook 8 will need to
convert this file.
Sorry I can't help.
Cat Lover Lori
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pavi Mehta" <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:20 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Submission formats, conversions & a request.
> Hi All,
>
> Requiring RTF as a submission format was a suggestion from the list
(that
> came up awhile ago) that I passed on to engineering, and I'm happy to
> share that it will be implemented with the new site. In terms of
> converting to RTF the books currently on the download list in ARK &
KES
> formats: volunteers who have the capability and are willing to do the
> conversion can download the book, convert and upload it with a note in
the
> comment section indicating that it has been converted and needs to be
> returned to the download list for validation. Carrie or I will then
return
> it to the download list.
>
> We have the capability in-house to carry out the KES to RTF
conversion,
> but at this point cannot convert the ARK files to RTF.
> If there is a particular book you would like to have us convert from
KES
> to RTF please send me the title and author name.
>
> FYI I converted A Cold Christmas by Charlene Weir from KES to RTF and
> returned it to the download list today.
> Another title that I went in to convert was: L'ENFANT'S LEGACY :
Public
> Open Spaces in Washington, D.C by Michael Bednar the file is listed as
a
> KES file but when I downloaded and opened it I discovered it was
actually
> an RTF. Unfortunately we don't have a way of editing the file type
field.
> I have returned it to the download list with a note in the comment
section
> about the actual file type.
>
> Also: I received a request from a member who is interested in
validating
> "Touch and Blindness: Psychology and Neuroscience" a set of technical
> papers in ARK format on the download list. She would like to have it
in
> RTF format. If there's someone willing to do the conversion on that
that
> would be great!
>
> All good things,
> Pavi
>
>
> Pavi Mehta
> Volunteer Coordinator, Bookshare
>
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> Palo Alto, CA 94306-1609 USA
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>
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>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 12:35 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: format for submission?
>
> Great suggestion Cindy.
>
> As I see it, there is no reason why an Ark, Kes, or Wyn (spelling
again?)
> couldn't be translated by the originator to .rtf. Then any validator
could
> work on their book.
>
> Should be a hard fast rule.
>
> Bob (the dictator).
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy Rosenthal" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Pavi Mehta" <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 7:17 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] format for submission?
>
>
>> Perhaps one change should be that all books must be submitted in rtf?
>> There are so few people who can validate ARK and KES files, or Wynn?
Can
>> people who scan in those convert them to rtf before submitting or is
that
>> not possible? There are currently a lot of Ark, including the
Krueger,
>> and
>> several Wynn and KES books on the download list, in case anyone who
can
>> validate in those formats is interested in taking a look. smile
>>
>> Cindy the elder
>>
>> WISH LIST (CALLED REQUESTED ADDITIONS TO THE BOOKSHARE COLLECTION)IS
>> AVAILABLE AT
>> http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/wish_list/wish_list.htm
>> www.lljfm.net/bookshare/home.htm
>>
>> A LIST OF BOOKS CURRENTLY BEING SCANNED IS AVAILABLE AT
>> http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/
>> www.lljfm.net/bookshare/home.htm
>>
>>
>> --- On Tue, 11/11/08, Pavi Mehta <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Pavi Mehta <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: How to be a black belt validater?
>>> To: "Monica Willyard" <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>,
bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 11:09 AM
>>> Thanks for ccing me directly Monica -- it definitely helps.
>>>
>>> This is absolutely great information to include in the
>>> manual -- especially because I've had to field questions
>>> along these lines for various new volunteers and it would
>>> save everyone's time and make so much sense to have it
>>> all outlined clearly in one place. Have added it to my
>>> growing pile of "edits and inclusions"
>>>
>>> Thanks all!
>>>
>>> Pavi
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Monica Willyard [mailto:rhyami@xxxxxxxxx]
>>> Sent: Tue 11/11/2008 5:21 AM
>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Cc: Pavi Mehta
>>> Subject: Re: How to be a black belt validater?
>>>
>>> Bob, you bring up a good point here. I'm going to copy
>>> Pavi just in case she
>>> hasn't seen this message. I think this really needs to
>>> be included in the
>>> manual. We have lost several volunteers due to unclear
>>> specifications up
>>> front. For example, though almost all Windows users have
>>> access to WordPad,
>>> we can't use it for validating because it doesn't
>>> retain section breaks and
>>> doesn't show page breaks with speech. The latter
>>> problem could be solved by
>>> hiring a Jaws/Window Eyes scripter to make a script file
>>> that volunteers can
>>> download. The former problem, the one about section breaks,
>>> is a Microsoft
>>> issue we can't get around. I can only speak from a
>>> Windows perspective since
>>> I'm not familiar with the Mac or Linux.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would put the requirements this way in the manual.
>>> Validaters must have
>>> and use one of the following:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Microsoft Word
>>>
>>> Kurzweil
>>>
>>> WordPerfect (if you have some sight since speech
>>> doesn't announce page
>>> breaks)
>>>
>>> Openbook
>>>
>>> Wyn Wizard
>>>
>>> A modern Pacmate or BrailleNote
>>>
>>> Open Office, (if you are sighted since speech doesn't
>>> work with this
>>> program)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Validaters cannot use:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> An old notetaker like Braille Lite or Braille 'N'
>>> Speak (It doesn't retain
>>> page breaks at all)
>>>
>>> WordPad
>>>
>>> Notepad
>>>
>>> Windows Live Writer
>>>
>>> A text editor
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Monica Willyard
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> Bob Writes:
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: How to be a black belt
>>> validater?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is an excellent suggestion Kaitlyn.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would like to see something about necessary tools and
>>> preferred tools.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For example, is ms word a necessary tool? or is Kurzweil
>>> preferred over
>>> Openbook? Can a validator validate properly using only a
>>> notetaker?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I realize that this would be a difficult section because we
>>> all, obviously,
>>> prefer the tools we have on hand, and the prices for
>>> adaptive technology
>>> prohibit us from buying a whole new bunch of tools just
>>> because it seems
>>> that these are the preferred method.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However, a person couldn't validate using only a text
>>> editor with a spell
>>> checker because page numbers wouldn't be maintained. I
>>> suspect that most of
>>> the early books into the collection were submitted using
>>> only a text editor.
>>> However, if a new volunteer wanted to use a text editor to
>>> validate a book
>>> they'd be out of luck.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>
>>
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