Hello all, There are several issues here. As Jake points out, Just because all possible tags aren't applied to a particular book, doesn't make it an invalid DAISY file. Having looked at the actual DAISY/XML content that Bookshare's tools generate, I can verify that, if such things as paragraphs exist in the original file--which is RTF, the Bookshare tools correctly interpret them and do apply proper formatting to these elements. Humanware does claim to support Bookshare DAISY files on their Braille Note group of products. Not having used one, I can neither confirm nor deny that assertion. Robert, I would highly encourage you to speak with Humanware tech support to notify them of the problems you are facing. This will let them know about the types of problems people are having with Bookshare (or other) DAISY books. Encourage them to fix it. many times, companies such as Humanware prioritize their upgrades and fixes based on feedback they receive. If they don't hear from you, they'll assume it's working. Hope this helps. Let me know if you have specific questions. Pratik _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jake Brownell Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 6:21 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Speaking of the Braillenote Robert, BookShare books should be marked up by paragraphs as evident by the DAISY and HTML copies rendering paragraphs correctly in other applications. BookShare most certainly does produce DAISY books, even if they only have some content marked up. I do not have to use every single HTML tag in an HTML page for the page to in fact be an valid HTML page. Similarly just because Microsoft Word's doc format supports making text bold does not mean I need to have bold text in every document for it to be a valid Word file. Keep in mind that BookShare's DAISY and BRF content is generated from, usually RTF files. This automatic generation at this time is only as good as the programmed tools. The quantity of books produced could not be what it is if each and every DAISY book was produced by hand. Jake ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert <mailto:spongebob5@xxxxxxxxxxx> Woody To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:05 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Speaking of the Braillenote That's what I mean. How can Bookshare say it has Daisy books when by the definition of Daisy, it doesn't? ----- Original Message ----- From: Jill <mailto:jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx> O'Connell To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:35 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Speaking of the Braillenote Unless directions are written into a Daisy book, they cannot be utilized. For example, if the book is not set up to go to particular page numbers, it won't happen; so I don't think you can blame the BrailleNote for this. _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 4:12 PM