[bksvol-discuss] Re: Some Newbie Questions

  • From: "Judy s." <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 03:50:01 -0600

Hi Bill

Here's the background on the "right format for navigation".

After a book is proofread Bookshare takes the rtf file and converts it into the different formats (DAISY, braille and mp3) that the members can download. If the rtf follows a specific standard of formatting for the title, sections, chapter headings, subchapter headings and the text, Bookshare's conversion program can create navigation points that work correctly with the various programs members use to read the books.

The book has to have the following bolding and font sizes to make the book ready for correct DAISY navigation. The proofreader will put them in if the person who has scanned the book hasn't already. Here's the standard Bookshare uses:

Title on the title page: 20 point and bold.
Parts/Sections/Books: 18 point and bold.
Chapters: 16 point and bold.
Subchapters/subsections: 14 point and bold.
Text: 12 point and not bold.

Hope that helps!

Judy s.
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On 11/8/2015 1:48 AM, William Korn (Redacted sender willythekorn for DMARC) wrote:


I can keep the italics. I'm using a Epson flat-deck scanner to scan to a .PDF file, and ABBYY FineReader 12 for the OCR. For the first 60 pages or so I output my .RTF file in plain text mode, but now I'm doing it in formatted mode. (I also went through and re-italicized the text that needed it.)

I'm not sure what you mean by the "right format for navigation". I set ABBYY to retain page marks and it's been doing a fine job of placing them exactly where they need to be. I've followed the instructions for formatting the chapter heading (which is a centered number which can appear anywhere on a page). The book has a running header (page number and book title, or title and page number) which is occasionally a pain in the fundament, but is fairly easy to get rid of. Are there other "navigation" considerations I'm missing?

Bill Korn

P.S. What does a scanner's note look like? Is it enclosed in square brackets?

*From:* Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx>
*To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Sent:* Saturday, November 7, 2015 10:53 PM
*Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Some Newbie Questions

If you can keep he italics, do. If you can't, make a note and teh
proofreader will make the words italicized. Can you do the
right formatting for navigation? Does teh book need to be proofed
by a sighted person?

On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 10:01 PM, William Korn
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>

Understood, Valerie. Thanks!

*From:* Valerie Maples <vlmaples1@xxxxxxx
*To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Sent:* Saturday, November 7, 2015 9:15 PM
*Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Some Newbie Questions


You have to remember that Bookshare is for anyone with a
print disability, not just individuals who are blind.
There are many sighted members who have physical access
issues as well as people with dyslexia. Retaining the
formatting of italics, bold, etc. are very important to
give cues for things such as title or emphasis. There are
some readers that also attribute inflection to deliver
additional information. Same with foreign language, it
alerts them that they may not know the meaning of the word
because it is not of the primary language the book is in.

Thank you for taking up the mantle of scanning! My husband
and I have worked on over 2000 books in memory of our
daughters who loved Bookshare as well as enjoying books we
would want to read ourselves but cannot because of our
physical disabilities. My hands are good enough to scan,
but not to hold the book for reading. Doug is a ventilator
dependent quadriplegic who runs his computer by voice and
is a very talented proofreader who can even take a raw
scan from me to clean up for me or someone else to
proofread. Our abilities complement each other’s very well.

It is our hope that you find volunteering as rewarding as
we do! :-)

Valerie Maples

I talk, computer types, we both make mistakes. ;-)

On Nov 7, 2015, at 10:45 PM, William Korn (Redacted
sender "willythekorn" for DMARC)
<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

I was wondering about that. Thanks for the information.

Since I'm here, one more question. The book I'm scanning
is a novel. No illustrations, footnotes, sidebars,
bullet points, boldface, etc.. But it does
have/italics/- for names of ships and for occasional
phrases in a foreign language. Do I need to keep that
formatting? Do italics make any difference in how it
would be read out by whatever device was doing the reading?

Bill Korn

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