[bksvol-discuss] Re: Some Newbie Questions

  • From: Christopher Zeigler <chrisallen032@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Bookshare book discussion list <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 23:50:08 -0500

Hello this is Chris
Welcome to Bookshare volunteering
I always try to make sure that the tag characters are converted into spaces
you do that in the Find and Replace dialog box.
Step 1 when your in your document press Control H that to bring up the Find
and Replace dialog box
Step 3 press the Shift key and the number 6 at the same time while holding
the Shift key that will type the carrot symbol then type a lower case T in
the box in the find a box
Step 4 in the replace box press your space keep once that will insert a
space into the replace box now select replace all where to find all of the
characters and replace them with a single space word will also let you know
how many it corrected.
Again I wanted to welcome you Bookshare Volunteering.
I hope this email make sense and you're all having a wonderful day
On Nov 7, 2015 11:16 PM, "Katherine Petersen" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Thanks for clarifying that, Judy.


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bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Judy s.
*Sent:* Saturday, November 07, 2015 7:31 PM
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*Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Some Newbie Questions

Just a note on this as a proofreader -- very rarely do I encounter a book
as a proofreader that still has its running headers. I think most people
who are scanning remove them, while making sure to keep the page numbers if
they are part of the header.

Katherine's submissions are a little different, because her software
doesn't correctly keep page breaks and the headers are really useful in
that case. But otherwise, I would encourage anyone scanning to remove the
running headers.

Judy s.
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On 11/7/2015 7:49 PM, Katherine Petersen (Redacted sender
katherine_petersen for DMARC) wrote:

Hi William,

Personally, I read what I scan cover to cover, word for word and fix
everything I can. I’m blind, so I leave most of the formatting stuff for
the proofreader but clean up the rtf file for text stuff as best I can. I
also think it’s likely easier for people to proof with the book, especially
in my case as I’m stuck for technical reasons with scanning in one-page
mode, so the breaks are usually messed up.

For this reason, I always send a copy of the book to the proofreader if
they can’t easily find it at a library. For example, Cindy is working on a
Margery Allingham book that has probably a zillion editions by this point,
but it was just easier for me to just send her my copy and then she can put
in the breaks where they belong.

After talking with proofers, and everyone’s preference may be different,
but they’ve asked me to leave in headers such as titles and the name of the
book (either at the top or bottom of the page). This, too, helps with
making sure the breaks are in the right place.

Hope this helps answer some of your questions. Others may have different
preferences and/or criteria. I’m just giving you what I do.

Mostly, I only scan what I want to read, so reading the books carefully to
fix things isn’t a big deal. I also have a Braille display, so editing the
text once it’s in an RTF file is easier for me. I had to work with speech
only while I waiting for a new battery for my display, and it was a bit
more painstaking to find the exact right spot.


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<bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of *William Korn
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*Sent:* Saturday, November 07, 2015 4:29 PM
*To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Some Newbie Questions

I'm about halfway through scanning my first book to submit to Bookshare.
I've studied such instructions as there are on the website (and even tried
to link to the Sanncer FAQ, but that link seems to be dead.)

Although I understand that the scanner is not to proofread the book, I
took the liberty of proofing the first 40 pages, more to see how well the
scanner and the OCR software were functioning than anything else. It's
functioning pretty well, I guess. I found about a dozen "scannos" (which I
also took the liberty to correct). Most of them were either incorrect
letters produced from two other letters, or problems with the software
interpreting the "1" in a page number as an "I", others were words broken
across a line in the book, but not in the resulting .RTF file (yet still
including the dash)..

In the guidelines the scanner is asked to review the .RTF file for
"minimal scannos", which leads to three questions:

1) How is "minimal" defined? Are the scannos I found above "minimal"?

2) Should I correct those scannos before uploading?

3) How is reviewing for scannos different than proofreading? They weren't
obvious things like junk characters. I would not have found them unless I
read the .RTF file.

My other major question is, how do proofers proofread the book without
having the book itself in hand? This particular edition of the book was
printed in 1973 (the original copyright was 1934) and is long out of
print. Subsequent editions have been printed since then by other

William Korn

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