Ah, I'm much more interested in the text than formatting. And even there I know what you mean about the converters doing a poor job. I'm not sure if that's because nearly all of the PDFs I've tried it with were legal documents with a few characters rarely seen in other contexts (such as the section mark mentioned before) or a more fundamental problems with the conversion process itself. I knoew there are non-Adobe PDF readers that do a fine job rendering PDF to screen, but those aren't much use to me now. On 1/22/10, Robert Riddle <captinlogic@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I've seen the docs too, but the fact remains that converted pdf documents > are usually pretty messy, because their layout information is pdf specific > and doesn't convert well. Even the best pdf to html converters usually come > out with extreme messiness. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 1:41 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Simon & Schuster > > >> Umm, the PDF format is well specified (I've seen the Adobe doc >> detailing it). If the document is actual text it shouldn't be too >> hard to get that text (other than it's in Unicode). It gets nasty >> with some characters though because it composes things like the >> section mark from a couple Greek letters. >> >> On 1/21/10, Robert Riddle <captinlogic@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> Well, there's not much you can do with pdf. I mean, it's a proprietary >>> Adobe >>> format and not really meant for conversion; the best solution, I've >>> found, >>> is to OCR them and then proof them like a normal book. This is not, of >>> course, the ideal solution for you guys, but it's what I do. >>> Epub is cool though, all it really is is a zip file that has a bunch of >>> html >>> files and layout information in it. Conversion to daisy is probably >>> pretty >>> easy with those. >>> Congratulations on the new publisher acquisition! >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Carrie Karnos >>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 10:41 PM >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Simon & Schuster >>> >>> >>> Our digital content person can accept books in almost any digital >>> format, >>> and convert them to DAISY and BRF. Still haven't a really reliable PDF to >>> RTF converter, most of them drop about a character a page, but they are >>> slowly getting better. >>> Carrie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> From: Robert Riddle <captinlogic@xxxxxxxxx> >>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 4:25:02 PM >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Simon & Schuster >>> >>> >>> Bookshare supports epub? That's news to me. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Carrie Karnos >>> To: Bookshare Vol Group >>> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:12 PM >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Simon & Schuster >>> >>> >>> Hi gang, >>> >>> Good news from our Publisher Liaison! I received this from her today: >>> ---- >>> >>> Simon & Schuster has signed our agreement, granting us world rights. >>> They have 5,200 titles in EPUB format which they will be uploading >>> shortly >>> with an additional 800 backlist files in conversion. We expect to >>> receive >>> 100 titles a month ongoing. >>> >>> >>> >>> S&S, founded in 1924, is a division of CBS Corporation and is one of >>> the >>> four largest English-language publishers, alongside Random House, >>> Penguin, >>> and HarperCollins. It publishes over 2,000 titles annually under 35 >>> different imprints, including Pocket Books, Scribner, Free Press, Atria, >>> Fireside, Touchstone, Atheneum Books for Young Readers, Little Simon, >>> Simon >>> Spotlight, and Simon Spotlight Entertainment. >>> >>> >>> >>> S&S has won 54 Pulitzer Prizes and been the recipient of numerous >>> National Book Awards, National Book Critics Circle Awards, Grammy Awards, >>> and Newbery and Caldecott Medals. The New York Times Book Review's "10 >>> Best >>> Books of 2009" list included Half Broke Horses by Jeannette Walls; A >>> Short >>> History of Women by Kate Walbert; and Raymond Carver by Carol Sklenicka. >>> S&S authors include Stephen King, Mary Higgins Clark, Bob Woodward, David >>> McCullough, Jackie Collins, Hillary Clinton, and Michael Moore. They >>> publish 27 dramatic works, including The Miracle Worker by William >>> Gibson. >>> >>> >>> >>> Simon and Schuster.net offers resources for K-12 and higher ed >>> educators >>> and librarians such as classroom activities, reading and curriculum >>> guides, >>> reading lists by state of award-winning titles, and suggested titles for >>> course adoption. They publish the Folger Shakespeare Library with full >>> explanatory notes, The Ernest Hemingway Library, and the Scott Fitzgerald >>> Library. The “Enriched Classics Books” series consists of annotated >>> editions >>> of over 80 classic works of literature and nonfiction. >>> >>> >>> >>> S&S has 1500 employees and distributes its titles in more than 100 >>> countries and territories around the world. It has publishing and >>> distribution capabilities in the United States, Canada, the United >>> Kingdom >>> and Australia, as well as an international sales presence in every major >>> market. >>> >>> --- >>> Carrie again. The answer to your first question is no, we don't know >>> when they will be sending us the books. And no, we don't know which books >>> they will send us. Believe me, if we knew, we'd tell you! >>> >>> So now HarperCollins, Random House, and Simon&Schuster are giving us >>> their books in digital format free. Wahoo! Usually the books that >>> publishing >>> houses digitize first are their most recent books, and then they work >>> backwards in time. No idea if they will digitize ALL of the books that >>> they >>> have ever published, or if they will stop at some point. So should you >>> scan >>> a book from one of these publishers? If it's an old book, sure, you bet, >>> please scan it. If it's a more recent book, I dunno. Please be warned >>> that >>> the more recent the book, the greater the likelihood that we will be >>> getting >>> the book from the publisher. No idea WHEN the book will appear, but >>> chances >>> are high that it will be soon. >>> >>> I am especially excited to put the play, The Miracle Worker, into the >>> collection. I have had a LOT of requests for it. And it's certainly >>> appropriate for Bookshare! >>> >>> Hope everyone is having a wonderful day! Carrie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Soronel Haetir >> soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. 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