[bksvol-discuss] Re: Serious or Sirius?

  • From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 23:33:17 -0800 (PST)

No problem, Evan. It's not being Serious isn't
serious. grin

G.Cindy
--- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Did I really do that? I'm horrified! It is
> definitely Sirius. The author is 
> Olaf Stapledon. We didn't mention it in the most
> recent messages because it 
> was mentioned in my first message about orphaned
> books when NLS and RFB&D 
> change formats.
> 
> Evan
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 9:52 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Serious or Sirius?
> 
> 
> > Well, now, here's another example of homonyms
> causing
> > problems, E.  Gary wrote S i r i u s, and I
> checked to
> > see if it is already on the Wish List (it isn't).
> Evan
> > wrote S e r i o u s. Neither put the author's
> name. If
> > I were looking for the book in my library, or on
> > Amazon, I'd have a little trouble. This has
> happened
> > in the past, by the way, when I've looked for
> books by
> > title in the library and didn't find them. Then
> I've
> > looked under author name and found that the title
> I
> > was looking for was incorrect, though spelled the
> way
> > it sounded. That was the problem, too, when Ann or
> > whoever was looking for the Anne of Green Gables
> books
> > in the collection.
> >
> > O.K. I'll stop now. I thinkk I've given enough
> > examples--probably too many. My apologies. I do
> tend
> > to go on and on and on. sigh
> >
> > G.Cindy
> >
> > --- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> No rush. I will be moving in early December
> anyway,
> >> so it may be mid or late
> >> December before I could validate them in any
> case.
> >> If they are too damaged,
> >> I'll procure copies from somewhere in January and
> >> work on them. I can get a
> >> used copy of Odd John and Serious from Amazon for
> >> three bucks, so don't put
> >> yourself out if the damage is interfering with a
> >> good scan. I've had good
> >> experiences with buying used books from there, so
> I
> >> will likely be able to
> >> get a good copy if you can't get a decent scan
> from
> >> yours.
> >>
> >> Yes, as I mentioned, NLS does have Last and First
> >> Men and Last Men in
> >> London, in one volume, and Star Maker. I suppose
> >> they will be orphaned as
> >> well when they move to digital only.
> >>
> >> Evan
> >>
> >>   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>   From: Gary Petraccaro
> >>   To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>   Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 4:49 PM
> >>   Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books found on
> other
> >> services
> >>
> >>
> >>   I have Odd John and Sirius, an Last and First
> men
> >> and Starmaker.
> >>   I may Not get to them immediately since I have
> 2
> >> books I'm finishing up.
> >> I'm working on Forgotten Men which needs its
> >> footnotes checked and properly
> >> set up and Power to the People which needs a Name
> >> check (475 names
> >> currently).
> >>   My guess is that I could get to it in the
> middle
> >> of December.  The books
> >> are old and have been very slightly water
> damaged.
> >> If they won't scan worth
> >> a damn I'll let you know tomorrow.  Hope this
> helps.
> >>   .PS NLS did have two books on tape.
> >>
> >>     ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>     From: Evan Reese
> >>     To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>     Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:38 AM
> >>     Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books found on
> >> other services
> >>
> >>
> >>     It would be an extraordinary, and unexpected,
> >> piece of good fortune if
> >> you did have these. Whatever you find out, please
> >> send word to:
> >>     mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>     Whatever the results of your search, thank
> you
> >> very much for checking.
> >>
> >>     Evan
> >>
> >>
> >>       ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>       From: Gary Petraccaro
> >>       To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>       Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:37 AM
> >>       Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books found
> on
> >> other services
> >>
> >>
> >>       I used to have them.  May still.  I'll
> check.
> >>         ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>         From: Evan Reese
> >>         To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>         Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 3:01 AM
> >>         Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books found
> on
> >> other services
> >>
> >>
> >>         The two books were by Olaf Stapledon, a
> >> British science fiction
> >> writer who had a great influence on Arthur C.
> Clarke
> >> and Greg Bear among
> >> others. His most well-known works were published
> in
> >> the 1930's. He is one of
> >> the few authors whose name has become an
> adjective.
> >> Whenever a reviewer says
> >> that a work is "Stapledonian", many SF readers
> will
> >> immediately know that
> >> that means it is grand in scope and probably
> takes
> >> place in the far future
> >> and involves characters - posthumans - people
> very
> >> different from the ones
> >> around now. Some consider his writing to be
> rather
> >> dry, but few would
> >> disagree that it is extremely imaginative.
> >>
> >>         The one that is available from NLS is
> Star
> >> Maker and the other book
> >> was Odd John and Sirius - two separate novels,
> but
> >> published together in the
> >> edition RFB&D had recorded. They did a pretty
> good
> >> job with both of those
> >> recordings, too. It is sad to know that probably
> >> noone will hear them again.
> >> I wish I had thought to check on them and order
> the
> >> tapes before it was too
> >> late.
> >>
> >>         NLS also has Last and First Men and Last
> Men
> >> in London, two other
> >> books published in one volume. I wonder if those,
> >> and their version of Star
> >> Maker, will also be orphaned when they stop
> sending
> >> out cassettes.
> >>
> >>         Evan
> >>
> >>           ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>           From: Gary Petraccaro
> >>           To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>           Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 9:17 PM
> >>           Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books
> found
> >> on other services
> >>
> >>
> >>           Which two?
> >>           Thanks.
> >>
> >>             ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>             From: Evan Reese
> >>             To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>             Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 10:32
> PM
> >>             Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books
> >> found on other services
> >>
> >>
> >>             There is also another issue: Whenever
> >> NLS changes its formats,
> >> many books
> >>             are left behind - never to be
> accessible
> >> again. This happened
> >> when they
> >>             stopped sending out records and it
> will
> >> happen again when they
> >> stop lending
> >>             cassettes. The same thing happened
> with
> >> RFB&D books on cassette.
> >> I picked up
> >>             a few that were on cassette that are
> not
> >> yet on CD, but I missed
> >> some too -
> >>             probably some that I haven't thought
> of
> >> yet. Just last Thursday,
> >> I was
> >>             saddened to discover that I couldn't
> >> find two books I like very
> >> much that
> >>             they recorded years ago on tape that
> are
> >> now no longer available
> >> because
> >>             they are not on CD. NLS has one of
> them
> >> on tape, but the other
> >> is not
> >>             accessible anywhere at this time. I
> hope
> >> to fix that early next
> >> year by
> >>             submitting it to Bookshare.
> >>
> >>             With Bookshare books, I would expect
> >> that whatever new file
> >> formats are
> >>             created and adopted, there will
> likely
> >> always be devices that
> >> can read brf
> >>             files and devices that will read old
> >> versions of Daisy files. Or
> >> even if
> >>             that is not the case, the rtf files
> that
> >> Bookshare has of all
> >> submitted
> >>             books can be reprocessed into any new
> >> format that comes along.
> >> In short, no
> >>             more orphaned books; or it is to be
> >> hoped, anyway.
> >>
> >>             Evan
> >>
> >>             ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>             From: "Lori Castner"
> >> <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>             To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>             Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:46
> PM
> >>             Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books
> >> found on other services
> >>
> >>
> >>             > Plus, on bookshare, yu can get the
> >> books immediately--no
> >> calling your
> >>             > regional library and waiting for
> the
> >> book to arrive.
> >>             >
> >>             > Cat Lover Lori
> >>             >
> >>             > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>             > From: <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>             > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>             > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007
> 12:33
> >> PM
> >>             > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books
> >> found on other services
> >>             >
> >>             >
> >>             >> Hi,
> >>             >> I favor having books on Bookshare
> >> even if they are
> >> duplicates. One
> >>             >> example
> >>             >> of why is that although a site
> like
> >> National Braille Press
> >> has them, they
> >>             >> are in grade two braille. That
> leaves
> >> out some people. NLS
> >> may only have
> >>             >> it
> >>             >> on tape. That leaves out some
> people.
> >> Bookshare offers books
> >> in both
> >>             >> DAISY
> >>             >> and brf formats. That includes
> >> everyone as far as I can tell.
> >> I wish we
> >>             >> would stop pointing people to
> other
> >> sites to be honest.
> >> Instead, I feel
> >>             >> we
> >>             >> should get those books and put
> them
> >> on Bookshare. I wish they
> >> would join
> >>             >> us
> >>             >> and help us. That would centralize
> >> everything.
> >>             >>
> >>             >> Jim
> >>             >>
> >>             >> Thanks.
> >>             >>
> >>             >> Jim
> >>             >>
> >>             >> James D Homme, , Usability
> >> Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> >>             >> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx,
> >> 412-544-1810
> >>             >>
> >>             >> "Never doubt that a thoughtful
> group
> >> of committed citizens
> >> can change the
> >>             >> world.  Indeed, it is the only
> thing
> >> that ever has." --
> >> Margaret Mead
> >>             >>
> >>             >>
> >>             >>
> >>             >>
> >>             >>             "Dan Beaver"
> >>             >>             <dbeaver888@gmail
> >>             >>             .com>
> >> To
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> >>             >>
> >> [bksvol-discuss] books
> >> found on
> >>             >>
> >> other services
> >>             >>             11/19/2007 11:39
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> >>             >>
> >>             >>
> >>             >>
> >>             >>
> >>             >>
> >>             >> Hi all,
> >>             >>
> >>             >> I was thinking about some of the
> >> requests for books that are
> >> found free
> >>             >> on
> >>             >> other services sites.  For
> example,
> >> Louisa May Alcot's books.
> >> Mnay of
> >>             >> hers
> >>             >>
> >>             >> are free on Project Gutenberg.
> >>             >>
> >>             >> We already have links on Bookshare
> >> that simply point to other
> >> services
> >>             >> sites
> >>             >> for books.  Why can't we do
> something
> >> similar in this case?
> >> We have
> >>             >> links
> >>             >> that point to N BP for some books
> >> found exclusively over
> >> there.
> >>             >>
> >>             >> Just a brain storm.
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