No problem, Evan. It's not being Serious isn't serious. grin G.Cindy --- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Did I really do that? I'm horrified! It is > definitely Sirius. The author is > Olaf Stapledon. We didn't mention it in the most > recent messages because it > was mentioned in my first message about orphaned > books when NLS and RFB&D > change formats. > > Evan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 9:52 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Serious or Sirius? > > > > Well, now, here's another example of homonyms > causing > > problems, E. Gary wrote S i r i u s, and I > checked to > > see if it is already on the Wish List (it isn't). > Evan > > wrote S e r i o u s. Neither put the author's > name. If > > I were looking for the book in my library, or on > > Amazon, I'd have a little trouble. This has > happened > > in the past, by the way, when I've looked for > books by > > title in the library and didn't find them. Then > I've > > looked under author name and found that the title > I > > was looking for was incorrect, though spelled the > way > > it sounded. That was the problem, too, when Ann or > > whoever was looking for the Anne of Green Gables > books > > in the collection. > > > > O.K. I'll stop now. I thinkk I've given enough > > examples--probably too many. My apologies. I do > tend > > to go on and on and on. sigh > > > > G.Cindy > > > > --- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> No rush. I will be moving in early December > anyway, > >> so it may be mid or late > >> December before I could validate them in any > case. > >> If they are too damaged, > >> I'll procure copies from somewhere in January and > >> work on them. I can get a > >> used copy of Odd John and Serious from Amazon for > >> three bucks, so don't put > >> yourself out if the damage is interfering with a > >> good scan. I've had good > >> experiences with buying used books from there, so > I > >> will likely be able to > >> get a good copy if you can't get a decent scan > from > >> yours. > >> > >> Yes, as I mentioned, NLS does have Last and First > >> Men and Last Men in > >> London, in one volume, and Star Maker. I suppose > >> they will be orphaned as > >> well when they move to digital only. > >> > >> Evan > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Gary Petraccaro > >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 4:49 PM > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books found on > other > >> services > >> > >> > >> I have Odd John and Sirius, an Last and First > men > >> and Starmaker. > >> I may Not get to them immediately since I have > 2 > >> books I'm finishing up. > >> I'm working on Forgotten Men which needs its > >> footnotes checked and properly > >> set up and Power to the People which needs a Name > >> check (475 names > >> currently). > >> My guess is that I could get to it in the > middle > >> of December. The books > >> are old and have been very slightly water > damaged. > >> If they won't scan worth > >> a damn I'll let you know tomorrow. Hope this > helps. > >> .PS NLS did have two books on tape. > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Evan Reese > >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:38 AM > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books found on > >> other services > >> > >> > >> It would be an extraordinary, and unexpected, > >> piece of good fortune if > >> you did have these. Whatever you find out, please > >> send word to: > >> mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> Whatever the results of your search, thank > you > >> very much for checking. > >> > >> Evan > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Gary Petraccaro > >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:37 AM > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books found > on > >> other services > >> > >> > >> I used to have them. May still. I'll > check. > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Evan Reese > >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 3:01 AM > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books found > on > >> other services > >> > >> > >> The two books were by Olaf Stapledon, a > >> British science fiction > >> writer who had a great influence on Arthur C. > Clarke > >> and Greg Bear among > >> others. His most well-known works were published > in > >> the 1930's. He is one of > >> the few authors whose name has become an > adjective. > >> Whenever a reviewer says > >> that a work is "Stapledonian", many SF readers > will > >> immediately know that > >> that means it is grand in scope and probably > takes > >> place in the far future > >> and involves characters - posthumans - people > very > >> different from the ones > >> around now. Some consider his writing to be > rather > >> dry, but few would > >> disagree that it is extremely imaginative. > >> > >> The one that is available from NLS is > Star > >> Maker and the other book > >> was Odd John and Sirius - two separate novels, > but > >> published together in the > >> edition RFB&D had recorded. They did a pretty > good > >> job with both of those > >> recordings, too. It is sad to know that probably > >> noone will hear them again. > >> I wish I had thought to check on them and order > the > >> tapes before it was too > >> late. > >> > >> NLS also has Last and First Men and Last > Men > >> in London, two other > >> books published in one volume. I wonder if those, > >> and their version of Star > >> Maker, will also be orphaned when they stop > sending > >> out cassettes. > >> > >> Evan > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Gary Petraccaro > >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 9:17 PM > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books > found > >> on other services > >> > >> > >> Which two? > >> Thanks. > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Evan Reese > >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 10:32 > PM > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books > >> found on other services > >> > >> > >> There is also another issue: Whenever > >> NLS changes its formats, > >> many books > >> are left behind - never to be > accessible > >> again. This happened > >> when they > >> stopped sending out records and it > will > >> happen again when they > >> stop lending > >> cassettes. The same thing happened > with > >> RFB&D books on cassette. > >> I picked up > >> a few that were on cassette that are > not > >> yet on CD, but I missed > >> some too - > >> probably some that I haven't thought > of > >> yet. Just last Thursday, > >> I was > >> saddened to discover that I couldn't > >> find two books I like very > >> much that > >> they recorded years ago on tape that > are > >> now no longer available > >> because > >> they are not on CD. NLS has one of > them > >> on tape, but the other > >> is not > >> accessible anywhere at this time. I > hope > >> to fix that early next > >> year by > >> submitting it to Bookshare. > >> > >> With Bookshare books, I would expect > >> that whatever new file > >> formats are > >> created and adopted, there will > likely > >> always be devices that > >> can read brf > >> files and devices that will read old > >> versions of Daisy files. Or > >> even if > >> that is not the case, the rtf files > that > >> Bookshare has of all > >> submitted > >> books can be reprocessed into any new > >> format that comes along. > >> In short, no > >> more orphaned books; or it is to be > >> hoped, anyway. > >> > >> Evan > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Lori Castner" > >> <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:46 > PM > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books > >> found on other services > >> > >> > >> > Plus, on bookshare, yu can get the > >> books immediately--no > >> calling your > >> > regional library and waiting for > the > >> book to arrive. > >> > > >> > Cat Lover Lori > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 > 12:33 > >> PM > >> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books > >> found on other services > >> > > >> > > >> >> Hi, > >> >> I favor having books on Bookshare > >> even if they are > >> duplicates. One > >> >> example > >> >> of why is that although a site > like > >> National Braille Press > >> has them, they > >> >> are in grade two braille. That > leaves > >> out some people. NLS > >> may only have > >> >> it > >> >> on tape. That leaves out some > people. > >> Bookshare offers books > >> in both > >> >> DAISY > >> >> and brf formats. That includes > >> everyone as far as I can tell. > >> I wish we > >> >> would stop pointing people to > other > >> sites to be honest. > >> Instead, I feel > >> >> we > >> >> should get those books and put > them > >> on Bookshare. I wish they > >> would join > >> >> us > >> >> and help us. That would centralize > >> everything. > >> >> > >> >> Jim > >> >> > >> >> Thanks. > >> >> > >> >> Jim > >> >> > >> >> James D Homme, , Usability > >> Engineering, Highmark Inc., > >> >> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, > >> 412-544-1810 > >> >> > >> >> "Never doubt that a thoughtful > group > >> of committed citizens > >> can change the > >> >> world. 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