Nolan you make some very good points, and I'm sorry that I'm too late to take you up on your challenge. I love Kate Wilhem and that would have been a validation that would have been no hardship. <smile> I think Carrie and Mary make some good points in favor of self validation, too. The truth is that I'd be very happy never to have to validate at all. I'm only venturing into this side of the equation to help with the tremendous backlog. The book I validated last night was Fire: The Unexpergated Diary of Anais Nin, and it along with three or four other volumes of her diary have been on the download page for months. If BookShare Administration wants to reject the copy I validated, I'd be glad to then resubmit the original scan. I'm not tied to this stuff one way or the other. I do it as a volunteer service because I love to read and I believe in the project. So now I have to go find something else that might keep my interest from the download page. Peace and Hope, Donna, who may have to break out the Shiraz after all.