Hi Cindy. Indeed pictures do not transfer into the .rtf in fact you aren't supposed to let them. smile. But for times like I have where there is no one around you just have to scan every page. I can sometimes tell if a whole page is a picture, but don't want to skip them unless I know for sure that there is no caption. That is why I gave Patty the settings I did. When you are done scanning you just go through and erase all the Junk that was in the pictures that the OCR software tried to recognize. But, indeed if I have someone willing to describe pictures it is great but not always practical, smile. I can see the pictures as blocks of darkness, or color, but nothing more. And as my vision decreases I prefer not to assume and miss something. Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. Graduate Advisory Council www.guidedogs.com The vision must be followed by the venture. It is not enough to stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs. -- Vance Havner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 1:01 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Scanning picture books Patti, You say you don't know where the pictures in the book are. If you could find out via a sighted friend or relative, you can just skip the pages with pictures -- but mark the page number and indicate that that page is an illustration. Some pictures have captions, and it's good to scan those, if you can. If you have a really good friend or relative who's willing to help by describing the picture, it's nice to have that description in, but it's not necessary. Shelley, I think you suggested that she scan the pages with the pictures,too, but they won't convert, will they? They don't stay in the book when it goes to bookshare, do they? However, Patti, if you do scan them and a validator can get the book he/she can indicate that that page is am illustration and delete the garbage that might be on it. So don't worry and just scan and submit. Cindy > Thanks for this message about ways to find books > to scan, I am saving > this message for future reference. I must admit, > having only been on this > list for a day or so I was beginning to wonder if I > should even make the > effort to submit a book, because I don't know the > first thing about how to > fix scans; all I know is how to scan and all this > talk about submissions and > how accurate that we want them to be made me think > that I could never offer > anything passable. I am still not sure if I should > try or not. My question > is, what if your book has pictures in it, and > particularly if it has a lot? > What do you do about that, if you don't know where > they are? I have this > really neat book I want to submit but I am afraid it > may not be scannable. > Oh, I scanned it once for myself and got the gist of > it, but I don't know if > my copy is submitable. Thanks for listening to my > ramble, take care, and I > will try to learn from you all, and maybe it will > all click one day and I'll > try to submit something. > Patti > > Dear Lord, help me to become the kind of person that > my dog thinks I am. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rui" <rui@xxxxxxxx> > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:42 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Feeling like scanning, but > don't know what to > scan? > > > > Hello my fellow booksharians: > > Feel like scanning something, but don't know what > to scan? > > > > Ah yes, what a quandry of epic proportions. > > > > Well, fear not, you have 2 options > > First and foremost there is the > Bookshare-maintained wishlist. This can > > be > > found at: > > http://www.bookshare.org/web/WishList.html > > Here you can find books that other booksharians > are longing for. > > > > > > Secondly, there is the Rui-maintained "no book > left behind list." This > > can > > be found at: > http://members.cox.net/booksharescans/rejected.html > > These are books that were rejected by the innitial > validater. However, > > just > > because the scan wasn't up to standard, does not > mean that these books > > should not take there rightful place in the > bookshare library. > > > > So in closing, I encourage all of you scanners to > take a look at these two > > lists, > > > > > > -- > > This Bookshare Public Service Announcement has > been brought to you by, Rui > > The opinions expressed herein are not necessarily > those of benetec, > > bookshare.org, their employees, blah, blah, etc > etc,. > > (smile) > > > > -- Rui > > Bookshare.org Unofficial Volunteer Scanning Page > > http://members.cox.net/booksharescans > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com