[bksvol-discuss] Re: Sam's cooking gear

  • From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:21:51 -0700

Maybe you should read your mail more carefully.  If you had, you would have 
noticed that I quoted Sam's references to pans from The Two Towers last week.  
I am a little miffed that you would imply that I hadn't supplied facts to back 
up my assertion that he used pans.  I even said that I had looked it up.  It is 
true that I didn't mention that the quotes were from The Two Towers, but I 
would have thought that you would have known that because the incident the 
quotes came from was mentioned in the discussion.  Perhaps you don't know the 
books very well.

Finally some facts, indeed!

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Amy Goldring Tajalli 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 10:16 AM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sam's cooking gear


  Sanity and facts finally. Thanks.

  Amy
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Estelnalissi 
    To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 11:46 AM
    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sam's cooking gear


    Dear Tolkien Booksharians,

    Sam would be touched that his beloved pans garnered so much attention.  
This one's for you, Sam.

    "'And he (Stinker) isn't going to mess with my pans!' With that he carried 
all the gear away to one of the many gaping fissures that scored the land and 
threw them in. The clatter of his precious pans as they fell down in to the 
dark was like a death-knell to his heart."

    BTW
    Peter Jackson expressed remorse that he didn't make more of this emotional 
moment in his ROTK film 

    Always with love,

    Lissi

    "Maybe I should write a book called one hundred and one ways to use a 
frying pan." 
    Sam Gamgee 
    in Tolkien fanfiction by Alatariel
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Amy Goldring Tajalli 
      To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 12:51 AM
      Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sam's cooking gear


      I still must rely on memory as the books are not readily available (I can 
check later if anyone wants me to) but I do believe that nowhere else in the 
trilogy are the pans specified except as "cooking gear"  which, as has been 
said, was left in the depression (aptly named I think) as it was not said to be 
a hole or bottomless but it was never detail until the " stewed coneys" and, I 
think, an earlier reference to the lack of salt which Sam forgot. 

      Amy


      ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: k4zq 
        To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 9:25 PM
        Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sam's cooking gear


        Glad you corrected me, Evan.

        My skin ai'nt that thin.

        Ernie
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Evan Reese 
          To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 6:33 PM
          Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sam's cooking gear


          You are forgiven, but it is a grave offense to get something like 
that wrong; so please watch it. <grin>

          Besides, maybe you are the one who should forgive me.  After having 
looked up the matter for someone else, and having said so, I may have been a 
bit terse.

            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: k4zq 
            To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
            Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 9:49 AM
            Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sam's cooking gear


            Evan,

            Meant to indicate that the memory was foggy.  On further thought, 
believe sam did say something about Golum getting into hot watter if he damaged 
one of "my pans."  

            Forgive.

            Ernie
              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: Evan Reese 
              To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
              Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:24 PM
              Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sam's cooking gear


              He used pans to stew the rabits, as I have already shown.

                ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: k4zq 
                To: books ` list 
                Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:41 PM
                Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Sam's cooking gear


                Sam used a small pot to stew his rabbits, but when he dumped 
his gear in Mordor, there were a couple of pans.  One of them may have been a 
frying pan, but right now, can't remember.

                Ernie


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