Dear Tolkien Booksharians, Sam would be touched that his beloved pans garnered so much attention. This one's for you, Sam. "'And he (Stinker) isn't going to mess with my pans!' With that he carried all the gear away to one of the many gaping fissures that scored the land and threw them in. The clatter of his precious pans as they fell down in to the dark was like a death-knell to his heart." BTW Peter Jackson expressed remorse that he didn't make more of this emotional moment in his ROTK film Always with love, Lissi "Maybe I should write a book called one hundred and one ways to use a frying pan." Sam Gamgee in Tolkien fanfiction by Alatariel ----- Original Message ----- From: Amy Goldring Tajalli To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 12:51 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sam's cooking gear I still must rely on memory as the books are not readily available (I can check later if anyone wants me to) but I do believe that nowhere else in the trilogy are the pans specified except as "cooking gear" which, as has been said, was left in the depression (aptly named I think) as it was not said to be a hole or bottomless but it was never detail until the " stewed coneys" and, I think, an earlier reference to the lack of salt which Sam forgot. Amy ----- Original Message ----- From: k4zq To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 9:25 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sam's cooking gear Glad you corrected me, Evan. My skin ai'nt that thin. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: Evan Reese To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 6:33 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sam's cooking gear You are forgiven, but it is a grave offense to get something like that wrong; so please watch it. <grin> Besides, maybe you are the one who should forgive me. After having looked up the matter for someone else, and having said so, I may have been a bit terse. ----- Original Message ----- From: k4zq To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 9:49 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sam's cooking gear Evan, Meant to indicate that the memory was foggy. On further thought, believe sam did say something about Golum getting into hot watter if he damaged one of "my pans." Forgive. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: Evan Reese To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:24 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sam's cooking gear He used pans to stew the rabits, as I have already shown. ----- Original Message ----- From: k4zq To: books ` list Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:41 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Sam's cooking gear Sam used a small pot to stew his rabbits, but when he dumped his gear in Mordor, there were a couple of pans. One of them may have been a frying pan, but right now, can't remember. Ernie ---------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.1/421 - Release Date: 8/16/2006 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.3/423 - Release Date: 8/18/2006