[bksvol-discuss] Re: Romances and grants

  • From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <guidinggolden@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 22:02:50 -0400

Hi Roger, the simple answer is it is a Federal Government grant, and need I say 
more.  Guidelines of our fine Government state that romance and irratica are 
not educational no matter what we feel to the right course.

the Complicated answer is politics, politics, politics, smile.

Shelley L. Rhodes, M.A., VRT
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Alumni Association

The people who burned witches at the stake never for one moment thought of 
their act as violence;
 rather they thought of it as an act of divinely mandated righteousness.
 The same can be said of most of the violence we humans have ever committed. 
-Gil Bailie, author and lecturer (b. 1944) 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 9:57 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Romances and grants

  My first message on this topic was copied to volunteer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx because 
I would like some official clarification of this, but I suppose that we will 
have to wait at least until tomorrow for that. In the meantime, though, I would 
ask if anything but romances and erotica is classified as educational then why 
are romances and erotica not? It is undoubtedly true that one can learn 
something from virtually any book that has ever been written even if some have 
a lot more to teach than others, but if virtually every book that has been 
written can be classified as educational then the classification of educational 
loses its meaning. If the grant money can be spent only on educational books 
then it would seem, in this case, that the grant money can be spent on any book 
at all. If that is the case, then why is it a grant for educational books 
rather than a grant for just books? And still, how is a romance not educational 
and a book about the adventures of an elf queen in the land of the ogres is? 

                  "Philosophers have merely interpreted the world in various 
ways; the point is to change it." Karl Marx     

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  Dear Tammy,Shelley, Roger, and Booksharian Friends, 

  Thank you, Shelley, for your lucid, experience based explanation of how it is 
that most books qualify for grant support at Bookshare. A good example of
  the popular fiction books Bookshare is scanning by the dozens is the 
Goosebumps series. Some kids love 'em and teachers use 'em so into the 
  they go! 

  Tammy, as a romance lover you're going to find plenty to read in the 
Bookshare collection. Bookshare isn't shunning romances, but when spending 
grant funds,
  it must follow grant guidelines from the government which supplies the money. 
Several active volunteers contribute quality scans and proofreadings of 
  In fact, though it isn't my favorite genre, I've scanned and proofread some 
romances myself.  

  As for why Bookshare isn't encouraging donations of romances, aside for the 
fact that the grant doesn't supply funds for staff to process it in house,I
  suspect lack of space to store donated books is part of the problem. 
Bookshare rents office space. I've heard from staff that at times boxes of 
  books have lined the walls of the conference room and they can only be 
stacked so high before becoming a hazard. 

  Did you notice that the first several books on John's list of new books are 
romances? Bookshare and many readers welcome them. The cool thing is that we
  volunteers are free to submit and proof any type of book we like. I love it 
that we aren't bound by grant specifications.  

  Since I'm a volunteer like you and only communicate with the staff on the 
rare occasions, 2 or 3 times a year, when I need information I can't get on this
  list, or botch information I've filled in on a form and want it corrected, I 
can't answer your questions officially. In my experience the staff are patient
  with our questions so don't hesitate to ask them the questions you asked in 
your post.  

  I'll be glad to talk to you off list about your scanning and proofreading 
questions. When I began volunteering about three years ago, and all along since
  then, I learn techniques and tricks on this list and off list with helpful 
volunteers who enjoy sharing what they know. Like Allisa who is new and already
  giving good advice, you'll soon be answering questions yourself. 

  Always with love, 


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  Tammy Blaker 


  Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 9:04 AM

  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Romances and grants


  I don't understand , why would Romances not be covered?  I love romances and 
lots of other women do too.  If it covers SCI-FI and other fiction books then
  why would it not cover romance?  If it is the sex in romances they should 
read some SCI-FI and mystery books, because sex is in lots of other books too. 

  I scan Harlequin books and other romance all the time so I can submit them if 
there are proofreaders for them.  I want to get the rest of Catherine Coulter
  books and scan them too. 

  Why wont Bookshare do a training class for scanners and proofreaders like 
they do for Victor Reader and Read Out Loud?  The manual does not give much info
  on what is the best fonts, how to do the best headers and how the auto 
computers work with the scan programs.  I want the books I submit to sail 
  without problems and would take the time to fix them so they would. 

  I set my OCR to English UK and it is doing great now and I'm scanning 50 
pages a day.  I hope to get faster as I learn.  Almost every romances is in UK
  English not American.  

   I have a question.  On the book I submitted.  Radha Ayalasomayajul  Checkout 
the book and it says:  Active artifact id 421897 (RFT) 

  Then it say Radha Ayalasomayajula Checkout Active artifact id 421898 (Daisy) 

  I understand the first Radha Ayalasomayajul is proofing my rft file of the 
book.  But the second part does it mean she is turning it into a Daisy book so
  it can be checked out?  Does she work for Bookshare?  I'm just trying to 
understand the steps from my rft book file to a book that can be checked out at


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