[bksvol-discuss] Re: Release or return
- From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 23:30:55 -0600
Too late. About four o'clock this after noon, I murdered the book. I sent it to
reject heaven. But thanks for the info.
Frankly, I prefer to fear a fire breathing dragon than to receive a garland.
They don't call me St. George for nothing; but, come to think of it, they don't
call me St. George at all.
Oh well, on to find the next windmill.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: Carrie Karnos
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:26 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Release or return
Hi Bob,
Another option for you if you're sighted (sorry, I forget if you are) is to
look inside the book on amazon.com. I just looked at the book there. The table
of contents says that Chapter 5 starts on page 133, and sure enough, on the
page labeled 133, there's the start of Chapter 5. Looks to me like the Table of
Contents is accurate. So at least you know that's not the problem.
Bad old admins, eh?? What do you think - if I develop a reputation as a
fire-breathing dragon, will people do a better job with their scans so they
won't be scorched? Or should I throw garlands of violets around people who do a
wonderful job? Problem is that I have no way of throwing garlands. Some books I
approve are so-so, others are beautiful, but there's no way for me to
compliment the beautiful books. Oh well, looks like it's dragon time for me!
(just joking, everyone!)
Carrie
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From: Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 2:32:25 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Release or return
HI Bob,
Perhaps reject with comments that the submitter might take the time
to put in page breaks manually where they belong. After all, the submitter
is the one who made a hash of the page breaks in the first place. No need
for you as the proofreader to fix that kind of error. Just my opinion. It
sounds like a good book to have in the collection, but if submitters can't
figure out how to make page breaks go where they belong, they need to learn.
What better way to learn than to have to do it? But maybe I'm too harsh?
Mayrie
-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 2:27 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Release or return
I tend to agree with you Evan. <I like the phrase "salvage business" *grin>.
If this were a novel which someone might read for pleasure I think I might
be willing to fight for its inclushion in the collection. But, this is
obviously a book that someone might use as a reference manual. But, it would
be impossible to footnote the thing as a footnote needs to include the exact
location of the cited material, and that would be impossible with this book.
----- Original Message -----
From: EVAN REESE <mailto:mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 3:33 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Release or return
Well, I agree with Guido that we are not in the salvage business.
The amount of time that it would probably require to fix up the book may
well be more than it would take to scan it again.
It's too bad if the text quality is good, but the pagination needs
to be 90 percent accurate, if I recall the manual correctly. So it probably
won't, and shouldn't, get past Carrie unless it gets that overhaul that you
are, rightly, unwilling to do.
I think you should reject it, and perhaps put in the comments that
the text quality is good, but that the pagination is messed up beyond
acceptable quality and would take longer to fix up than to rescan.
Evan
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob <mailto:rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bookshare volunteer discussion
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Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 4:17 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Release or return
Hello.
I am currently proof reading The Heart & Soul of Change What
Works in Therapy. It is edited by Mark A. Hubble, Barry L. Duncan and Scott
D. Miller. Submitted by Alliant International University.
I have only begun to work with this book, but the pagination
seems to be all messed up.
Apa books has it at 462 pages. Kurzweil has it at 445 pages
including index and all front matter, and Bookshare has it at 406 pages.
None of the chapters begin where the table of contents say
they begin. Looking at the page breaks in Microsoft word, some appear at the
top of the page, but most seem to start somewhere in the middle of the page.
I initially thought maybe the scanner was set to scan two pages per scan and
only one page was scanned. However, the numbers are not doubled. IN short,
the pagination appears to be rather haphazard.
I am tempted to reject the book, but, the scan appears to be
ok (no major garbled text etc.). Without a major overhaul of the book (which
I am not going to do) I don't think I could get it passed the bad old
bookshare administrators <just kidding Carrie).
Can anyone think of anything I can do to salvage this book?
Bob
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful,
committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is
the only thing that ever has."--Margaret Mead
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