[bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 02:55:26 -0800
Hi Cindy,
This thing that you typed will not work with the braille translator. It's
either the four hyphens with a space on each end, or [blank line] that will
be most effective. In my opinion ---- works best, is simplest and shortest
to keyboard into a book, and according to the teacher friends of mine with
whom I've talked won't confuse sighted readers. But [blank line] would be
equally acceptable.
Mayrie
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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 7:54 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
What abouu this: __________ ? It's created by holding the shift key and the
hypenkey down for a count of 2 or 3; or ___
holdiong the shift key and hitting the hyphen key 3 times. It's the longer
line aboe the hyphen on the hyphen key
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From: Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 7:01 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
Hi Cindy!
Thanks for experimenting with a blank.
I think Mayrie said that the underscore would choke the braille conversion
tool. It doesn't look like a blank on a braille display, because that
braille symbol is used to indicate italics. In paper braille books, we can
use a symbol that is lower than hyphens so that it's a lot like the print
underscore, but, I guess the computers have a different idea. That's too
bad, because if it could be displayed like the print underscore on a
braille display, our problem would be completely solved. I guess we have
to put up with what works.
Debby
P.S. Just signing "Cindy" is fine, I think.
At 05:32 PM 12/31/2011, Cindy wrote
>I just replaced the few underlining of blsnk dpsce with 5
>hyphenstogether:-----
>
>It seems to created a ssosrt of dotted line--; if that causses problems,
>there is, on the top of the hyphen key a longer line: would this
>work?__________
>
>One gets it by using the the shift key with the hyphen key. In the above
>example I just held it for a second or teo, but here: I'll hit it 5 times
_____
>G. Cindy (Does another Cindy post a lot? IF not, it's easier for me just
>to sign myself Cindy than G. Cindy smile
>
>
>
>>
>>From: Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:20 PM
>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
>>
>>Hi Valerie, Mayrie and everyone!
>>
>>I received many wonderful things for Christmas, one being a SyncBraille
>>braille display which I'm using with Window-Eyes. I would have responded
>>sooner, but I was getting acquainted with the braille display and getting
>>the settings right in Window-Eyes for a 20 cell display after figuring out
>>it was breaking words in odd places until I told Window-Eyes the correct
>>amount of cells my display has.
>>
>>Now, getting to the question in this message:
>>
>>When I type four hyphens:
>>
>>----
>>
>>whether I arrow over them or read them on the braille display, the four
>>hyphens are close together as far as I can tell. Although I know a print
>>hyphen is higher than an underline/underscore, when the hyphens are close
>>together instead of this:
>>
>>- - - -
>>
>>where I purposely inserted spaces, can't that be less than a horrible
>>compromise?
>>
>>Debby
>>
>>At 06:14 PM 12/27/2011, Valerie Maples wrote
>> >Mayrie;
>> >
>> >I was afraid you would say that. No, hyphens are located higher and
with
>> >spaces and would do as much harm as good and be confusing, but if it
>> >chokes Braille, I guess we have to defer to that and lose the fewer
>> >sighted readers. Ugh! Oh, well, that si why I ask ...
>> >
>> >Valerie
>> >
>> >
>> >Keep up with Nichole's recovery:
>> >http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >From: Mayrie ReNae <<mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Sent: Tue, December 27, 2011 5:54:09 PM
>> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
>> >
>> >Hi Valerie,
>> >
>> >Underscores choke the braille translator. Will dashes not work for
>> >sighted people?
>> >
>> >Mayrie
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >----------
>> >From:
>>
<mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.
org
>>
>> >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples
>> >Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 3:15 PM
>> >To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
>> >
>> >The standard for sighted is underscores, and usually 10, but I think 5
>> >would still give a dighted reader the idea; could that be a workable
>> >compromise or are underscores tough in Braille?
>> >
>> >Thanks for the help; this book will be alot of work, but a great
resource!
>> >
>> >Valerie
>> >
>> >
>> >Keep up with Nichole's recovery:
>> ><http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples>http://www.caringbridge
>> .org/visit/nicholemaples
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >From: Mayrie ReNae <<mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Sent: Tue, December 27, 2011 5:11:11 PM
>> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
>> >
>> >Hi Valerie,
>> >
>> >Were it me, I would use four hyphens together, surrounded by spaces to
>> >indicate the blanks that need to be filled in. Is that what you are
>> asking?
>> >
>> >Mayrie
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >----------
>> >From:
>>
<mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelists.
org
>>
>> >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples
>> >Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 12:18 PM
>> >To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Refresher on fill in the blanks
>> >
>> >We are working on a bible study guide and I cannot remember the best
>> >practices for displaying/conveying fill in the blanks in the study
>> sections.
>> >
>> >Thanks!
>> >
>> >Valerie
>> >
>> >Keep up with Nichole's recovery:
>> ><http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples>http://www.caringbridge
>> .org/visit/nicholemaples
>>
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pours
>>forth foolishness.
>>Proverbs 15:2 NKJV
>>
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>>; Cause me to understand wherein I have erred.
>>Job 6:24 NKJV
>>
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>
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>; Cause me to understand wherein I have erred.
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