Hi, Laura Ann. I do the same thing now. In the beginning, I steered as far away from the fair-rated books as I could possibly get. Now, if it's something I want to read, I will download it and at least try to read it. If I can't, I make a note of it in hopes that I'll be able to rescan it some day, and I've also mentioned some of them on this list a few times, too, but I do at least give them a try now. I think the only reason I do that now is because I know the default rating is fair and doesn't get changed unless the submitter or validator changes it, so I do give the book a fair chance usually. Take care. -- Julie Morales Email & Windows/MSN Messenger: mercy421@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: mercy0421 Please contact me if I may not recognize your contact info before adding me or I may not add you! Currently in Winchester Regional, Virginia Overcast, 55F°(13C°) Wind:Calm Created by WeatherSig v1.10 . http://www.weathersig.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Ann Grymes" <agapepetsitting@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:27 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookshare seems to be interested in quantity Sometimes it could have been rated fair due to unusual names, or words that weren't recognized but are part of the story. I would download a fair text and then spot check it or start to read and see the quality if it is bad then I decide if I am going to do a BSO rescan of the book and submit it or just leave it alone and not read the book. Laura Ann At 11:17 PM 9/26/2006, you wrote: >I won't touch a fair book either. In fact, if I'm going through the >collection, in search of something I want to read, and find out >that's only "fair", I tend to be rather disappointed. It's almost >worse than the book not being there at all. > >Shannon >solsticesinger25@xxxxxxxxxxx >----- Original Message ----- From: "Lora" <loravara@xxxxxxxxxxx> >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 6:44 AM >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookshare seems to be interested in quantity > > >>I believe that you are correct. And perhaps it is the proper strategy at >>this point, though I'm not certain of it. One thought process might be >>that >>it's important in the first few years of Bookshare's life to build >>numbers, >>to show that the collection can grow when driven by the needs and wants of >>the blind membership. >> >>On the other hand, many people, myself included, won't touch a fair book, >>and would argue that they don't really count as a part of the collection >>as >>they are of such inferior quality. >> >>Why do I envision myself like Tevia ... He's right ... No, he's right. >> >>Ah, just rambling. >> >>Lora >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E. >>Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 5:32 AM >>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] bookshare seems to be interested in quantity >> >>I suspect that bookshare still wants to give most of the monetary reward >>to >>the person submitting the book rather than the person validating it and so >>is not likely to make the difference more "equitable" as you want. I base >>this suspicion on the fact that bookshare still permits submits of poor >>quality books rather than raising the bar, thereby making less work for >>validators and improving the quality of bookshare's collection. Bookshare >>for now seems to want to keep the bar low and strive for quantity. >> >>E. >>At 07:15 AM 9/26/2006, you wrote: >> >>>Hi Monica, >>> >>>I do understand that some people validate for credits, and there's >>>nothing at all wrong with that. On the other hand, many of the people >>>on this list, yourself included, strike me as dedicated, and willing to >>>do a good job for Bookshare at the same time. Originally, Evan I think >>>it was, said that by offering more money, people would just rush >>>through their validations to get the credits. Although this may be >>>true for some, I still find it hard to believe that most volunteers >>>would do that. Didn't someone say that only seven people paid for their >>memberships through their volunteer efforts? >>> >>>On the other hand, I'd rather see the pay scale changed entirely. >>>Perhaps >>>$2 for submissions, and $1 for validation, would balance the scales >>>more equably. >>> >>>This would balance so that 25 submissions, or 50 validations, would pay >>>for a renewal of membership. >>> >>>And if offering more for validations would cause people to race through >>>a validation, offering less would seem to encourage people to race even >>>faster. After all, if I'll only make fifty cents per validation, that >>>means I'll have to validate 100 books to get through the renewal >>>process. Better validate real fast! >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Monica >>>Willyard >>>Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 10:50 PM >>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: a sort of raise for validators >>> >>>Hi, Cindy. I have a scanner and use Openbook to scan. What I was >>>trying to say is that without credits, I wouldn't do much on the >>>validating side of things. As it is, I do validation both for the >>>credit and because we have a pretty hefty step 1 page right now. Lora >>>was talking about not validating for credits, and that is what I was >>>responding to. (smile) >>> >>>Monica Willyard >>> >>>On Monday 9/25/2006 11:34 PM, you wrote: >>> >Monica, >>> > >>> >One gets so much more monetary credit for scanning, and all you'd >>> >really have to do after a scan is to check the copyright page and put >>> >the right info in the submission form; go through the book and be >>> >sure no pages have been omitted (we've all done that, and >>> >double-scanned a page, too); and delete junk characters; and run a >>> >spell-check. So you validate because you don't have a scanner? I >>> >think some can be had relatively inexpensively and it might pay you n >>> > >the >>long run. >>> > >>> >I don't blame you at all for validating for the credits. I probably >>> >would work for the credits, too. I admit that in my lifetime I have >>> >volunteered my time and efforts rather than donated money, not only >>> >because I feel I'm being useful but because I don't have that much >>> >money to donate. smile >>> > >>> >Cindy >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>>bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a >>>list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject >>line. >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>>bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a >>>list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject >>line. >> >>To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. 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