[bksvol-discuss] Re: Questions about brackets, Braille translation, and multiple spaces between words

  • From: Elizabeth and Burton <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:09:25 -0500

They will not be able to use much else either including web braille, or the books put out by the American Foundation for the Blind, the American Printing House or the Braille Institute of America. With the exception of learning tools, almost all braille is Grade Two contracted braille when produced.


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At 12:44 PM 12/22/2006, you wrote:
Pratik
Thanks. But there are some readers who read only grade 1. Then they may not be able to use bookshare services I guess.devi

Pratik Patel <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Devi,

All bookshare conversion is done in grade 2.  This is an automated process.

Pratik



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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Questions about brackets, Braille translation, and multiple spaces between words

Hi all
About the conversion from print book to braille I have another question. For conversion what type of braille(grade1 or grade2) is used?What about childrens' books?Thanks devi


Maria Kristic <maria6289@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Hi all,
In reading some of the recent messages on-list, I, as someone new, have a few questions. First, about brackets. Someone mentioned that brackets didn't appear in Braille copies of books. As there is a Grade 2 Braille equivalent for a bracket, albeit two cells long (dot 6, dots 2-3-5-6 for an opening bracket and dots 2-3-5-6, dot 3 for a closing one), I'm wondering, what does the Braille translation software used by Bookshare do to them? I would think that, since there is a Braille character for them, they are translated correctly, but apparently, that's not the case? What's done to them, then? Are they converted in to words, as in the words "left bracket" or "right bracket"? I know that Duxbury will convert symbols with no Grade 2 equivalents to words rather than leaving them in Computer Braille, and I can't even begin to tell you how much that irritates me (for instance, a \ symbol would appear in a BRF file as literally the word "backslash" (without the quotes)), but I just checked with it, and even Duxbury translates them correctly, which is making me wonder? If no one knows for sure, can someone please point me to a book which they know should, in theory, contain brackets, so that I can take a look to see for myself? I ask because I used them in Girl in the Shadows, so I want to know whether anything out of the ordinary happens with them; this way, I can decide whether I should be worried about this issue or not. Second, out of curiosity, does anyone happen to know which Braille translation software Bookshare uses? If something strange is indeed happening to brackets, I'm wondering which translator exhibits this odd behavior? Finally, I'm wondering about the issue someone mentioned about words with multiple spaces between them. I thought I'd read on this list before that the software which converts books to BRF and DAISY converts all multiple spaces in to one (someone was told, therefore, not to indent paragraphs), so I'm confused. If the software converts all multiple, consecutive spaces to one, how can there still be words with multiple spaces between them? Does this stripping of spaces take place only in specific places, such as the beginning/end of a page, the beginning of a sentence, or somewhere else? Thanks much to anyone who can clarify this for me, and hope all of you have a happy holiday season!
Regards,
Maria
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