[bksvol-discuss] Re: Question on kids book fonts

  • From: Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:12:51 -0500

Hi Valerie!

It's nice to see a mom who is so supportive of her daughter so that Nichole can be as independent and live as normal a life as possible. My mom was very helpful too.

Debby

At 05:37 PM 10/29/2009, Valerie Maples wrote
Thanks, Mayrie!  No, as I told Bob, sighted readers with the more
severe physical handicaps or multiple handicaps can only handle the
most basic functions, and unfortunately, the communication devices
cannot default to a single larger font. I am just trying to find a way
for her to maximize her independence. Because she likes to be able to
read to the younger children (like her helper's four-year-old), it
helps when the words are larger. We are trying to find places that she
can be a role model. Being able to activate the reading for them (she
doesn't usually use audio output or herself) is a big treat.

She's always on the fringe, this is nothing new. Wink. We will learn
to live with it. Smiles.

Valerie


On 10 29, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Mayrie ReNae wrote:

Hi Valerie,

        I don't know if something like this is possible, but can whatever
device Nichole is using be set to display a larger font on everything
accessed, regardless of what it is, or where it comes from?  I'm
sure you
already thought of that, but figured I'd try.  I do so want everyone
to be
able to read happily!

Mayrie



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Maples
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question on kids book fonts

Actually, my daughter is one of many who cannot, but since the
preponderance
of suggestions is to stick with 12/16, I will probably do that.
Nichole has
really poor physical access, so she can only pick a book from 3,
then read
or pause.  Many kids with multiple handicaps or severe physical
handicaps
can only do limited things by themselves, and unfortunately none of
the
tools for BookShare that are accessible to kids like Nichole allow
you to
permanently designate a larger font.

Valerie


On 10 29, 2009, at 4:52 PM, Bob wrote:

I personally would change it all to twelve points and either new
roman
or ariel. We know that works.

If the person has some usable sight they can control the size with
their own reading software.

Just my opinion.

Bob

"We know the future will outlast all of us, but I believe that all of
us will live on in the future we make,"
Senator Edward M. Kennedy
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mayrie ReNae"
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Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:26 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question on kids book fonts


Hi Valerie and Lori,

I'm not positive about this, but here's what I think I remember
being
told.  Bookshare's tools take big fonts and shrink them, except
where
they are headings.  I think it is assumed that folks needing font
enlargement will use their adaptive software to do the enlarging.
I know
that back in the dark ages, screen readers did choke on fonts larger
than about 24 or 30.  That may have changed with advances in
software.  My suggestion would be to try what you want to try,
Valerie, and then, once the book is included into the collection,
download it and see what the tools have done to or with it.  Since
you are the proofreader, I think Lori's question/issue was
addressed.

Just my thoughts.

Mayrie



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Maples
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:04 PM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question on kids book fonts

I am the validator/proofreader. He came to me from Shelley in larger
fonts, and I just wondered if there was at least the four pt.
variance if it could still be  kept at a larger size.

I had not stopped to think about screen readers, can anyone address
that issue?

Thanks!
Valerie


On 10 29, 2009, at 3:56 PM, Lori wrote:

Well, if it is oked, then it would be important to let the
validator/ proofreader know as if one is following the directions
from the manual it says to change to 12 pt.

I'm not techy enough to know, but does a particular size font
interfere with the screen reader?

Lori

----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie Maples"
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Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:37 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Question on kids book fonts


I think I am right in remembering that we can use either Arial or
Times new Roman, right?  Okay, my question is, in kids books, can
we use larger pt. fonts, like 16 and 24?  Nichole was showing her
books on her screen to a buddy and they always wanted larger
fonts.
Most kids books scan at something s like 16 & 24, so I am hoping
that would  be okay.  I am doing two of Shelley's Stanley books
and
would like to  do them like that if it is acceptable and will
still
handle well in  Braille.

Valerie Maples
vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

currently scanning Without A Doubt (Sierra Jensen #5), With This
Ring (Sierra Jensen #6), My Thirty Years Backstairs at the White
House

currently proofing:  Stanley and the Magic Lamp, Invisible
Stanley,
A Deeper Level,  Ten Days to Self-Esteem

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