[bksvol-discuss] Re: Question on Scan quality for blind vs other types of disabled bookshare readers
- From: "EVAN REESE" <mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:11:10 -0500
Hmmm, I wonder if Window Eyes can be set to do that. I'm using that now instead
of JAWS. It doesn't matter, though, for my work with Bookshare at least, since
I read through the books I submit or validate on the Pac Mate to make
corrections, and am not going to read them through again just to find out if
all the fonts are kosher. Still, I can think of other contexts in which this
would be a useful function to have.
Evan
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From: Lora
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:48 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question on Scan quality for blind vs other
types of disabled bookshare readers
Actually, JAWS can be set to announce font and color changes. Before I open
my mouth and insert my foot, I'm trying a little experiment here. Sighted
readers should see three different colors, and three different fonts, in this
message.
In order to do this, go into the Configuration Manager for Word or Outlook,
and choose the Speech and Sounds Manager from the Settings menu. In there,
you'll see lots of different sound schemes for working with things like VB.Net,
or the Web. I chose Proofreading Attributes, Font Info and Color.
Now as I read, JAWS announces the color changes as they occur, and reads
different fonts in different voices.
Sorry to sighted readers if this message looks chaotic . You can make these
same configuration changes in Word or Word Perfect, etc.
The trouble is, in order for this to be effective, you'd have to be reading
the whole book. If you were, though, font and color changes would be announced.
What I was hoping was that JAWS had a Quick Keys setting for font change, but
I don't see one. Then you could just move to the next font change, and that'd
be easy.
You can also use Word's find features to find a specific font, or find a
specific color of text, but for that to be useful, you'd have to know what you
were looking for.
None of this probably helps much, but I thought I'd throw in my two cents.
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carrie Karnos
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:00 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question on Scan quality for blind vs other
types of disabled bookshare readers
Hi Evan,
One option is for blind validators to set the font of the entire book to 11
(or thereabouts). I don't particularly like this option because it's harder for
sighted people to see chapter and section titles when they are the same size as
the regular text, but it is an option.
Just an FYI, Carrie
----- Original Message ----
From: EVAN REESE <mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2008 1:47:46 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question on Scan quality for blind vs other
types of disabled bookshare readers
I think you're right on this. Being unable to see the screen, I have no idea
how I can be aware of - let alone correct - font problems without checking
the font of every word in the book manually. I have checked the fonts of
headings when scanning or validating books, but for the rest, I just have to
assume the fonts are okay. A person with enough vision to see the screen can
look at a whole page and see that something is out of whack. I don't see how
somewhat with insufficient vision could do anything similar. If I am
mistaken, please let me know. I could, of course, check each page in Word or
K1000 and see what kinds of fonts are on it, and what the sizes are. But as
far as I know, those programs don't tell you which font is where on the
page. So someone who cannot see the screen would need some way of hearing -
on the fly - when the font changes and the new characteristics. Is that
possible? Unless that can be done, or there is another way for someone with
little or no vision to be aware of font problems without a great deal of
time consuming manual checking, it seems unrealistic to expect that books on
Bookshare will have no font problems, as long as people with little or no
vision are submitting or validating them.
Evan
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From: <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 8:55 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question on Scan quality for blind vs other
types of disabled bookshare readers
> Hi,
> I will add to this that as a blind validator, it would probably be
> difficult to correct all font problems. If I am incorrect about this, I am
> certainily open to validation help.
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> Jim
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> I'm Anastasia; I am legally blind and use a screen enlarger. So I can see
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> Here are my thoughts: I scan in one file type that keeps the format, kes,
> and submit it in one that deletes the format. This type, rtf is more
> universal. RTF automatically deletes the formats. It is more fluid
> listening to it without the format. However, I can understand as someone
> who reads print why keeping the format in tact for the recent members
> would be beneficial, the only format that keeps the print in tact is KES
> and that is not a universal file. I hope I have answered your question If
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