Hi Valerie! Oh, I'm so glad I'm not alone in my potential overbolding and enlarging. I don't think we're hurting anything, and say we should just rock on! Mayrie _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 11:50 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question: Title page position Okay, am I the only oddball who bolds and 20 points all the pre-matter titles? I figure whichever is the real title is covered, then. Saves my indecisive nature from stalling interminably on which is the "real" title page. I figure it cannot hurt, but maybe that is wishful thinking... Valerie _____ From: Judy s. <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wed, January 11, 2012 1:27:31 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question: Title page position Hi Mayrie, this raises a question for me. I've run into a lot of books that have the title only on the first page, or the title and author. Then, within the next several pages they may repeat that several times and then finally have a page of what is the 'real' title page with the title, author and publisher on it. Which one should I treat as the title page? Sometimes this page even occurs after the copyright page. I've been treating the one with title, author and publisher on it as the title page. Don't you love the publishing industry and how it has consistent layouts? grin. Judy s. Mayrie ReNae wrote: Hi Denise, It sounds to me like the title page that staff is talking about is the first title page (many books have two). The first title page contains title, author, and publisher only. Generally, the second title page only contains the title of the book, and nothing else. So, I'd say not to move the title page that you have on page ten. I assume that at this point, before you've made any changes, that page 7 is blank. On that page, just type the title of the book, bold it, and enlarge it to 20 point font. Then type the author and below that the publisher. In most cases, the copyright page is on the flipside of the actual title page containing title, author, and publisher. And after those two pages are often acknowledgements, dedication, maybe a blank page, and possibly a page containing just the title of the book. You shouldn't ever need to reorder pages. It sounds like the title page of your book didn't scan clearly enough to give you recognizable text. This is very very common as publishers seem to think that fancy fonts are desirable on title pages and OCR chokes on them. Hope some of that ramble helps! Mayrie _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Denise Wagner Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 7:45 AM To: bksvol-discuss Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Question: Title page position Hi all, I have a simple question. I submitted a book I proofread and it came back to me needing a title page. The note indicated it should be on page 7. It does already have a title page on page 10 right before the page where Chapter One begins. So, the question is: Is there a particular order in which the Front matter needs to be in? I plan to move the title page, of course, to page 7, but I just want to make sure I understand for future proofreading. Thanks, Denise