[bksvol-discuss] Re: Question: Title page position

  • From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:48:02 -0800 (PST)

Not trying to muddy the waters, Cindy, but the email I read from Scott only 
titles did not get converted to all caps.  The navigational sizes are all 
bolded, and as follows:

Titles in 20 pt bold
Sections in 18 pt. bold
Chapters in 16 pt. bold
Subdivisions in chapters 14 pt and bold 
Body of text in 12 point regular unless altered in the print edition
I typed them each as we would; not sure if my webmail will retain their 

Keep up with Nichole's recovery:

From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wed, January 11, 2012 4:40:38 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question: Title page position

I used to do that, but recently when I checked the manual I read that titles 
need only to be 16 point Bold (and not caps) and subtitles 14point Bold and not 
c aps, and that is what I' e been doing on this book. I think I asked Scott, 
but  can't remember. Am I wrong? I'm not going to go back correct what I've 
on this book so far, but I can go back to 20point Bold (and caps?) and 16 for 
subtitles as I continue and on future books if that's what we should still be 

 From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 11:49 AM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question: Title page position
>Okay, am I the only oddball who bolds and 20 points all the pre-matter titles? 
> I figure whichever is the real title is covered, then.  Saves my indecisive 
>nature from stalling interminably on which is the "real" title page.  I figure 
>it cannot hurt, but maybe that is wishful thinking...
> Valerie
From: Judy s. <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Wed, January 11, 2012 1:27:31 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question: Title page position
>Hi Mayrie, this raises a question for me.  I've run into a lot of books that 
>have the title only on the first page, or the title and author.  Then, within 
>the next several pages they may repeat that several times and then finally 
>a page of what is the 'real' title page with the title, author and publisher 
>it.  Which one should I treat as the title page? Sometimes this page even 
>after the copyright page. I've been treating the one with title, author and 
>publisher on it as the title page.
>Don't you love the publishing industry and how it has consistent layouts? grin.
>Judy s.
>Mayrie ReNae wrote: 
>Hi Denise,
>>It sounds to me like the title page that staff is talking about is the first 
>>title page (many books have two). The first title page contains title, 
>>and publisher only.  Generally, the second title page only contains the title 
>>the book, and nothing else.
>>So, I'd say not to move the title page that you have on page ten.  I assume 
>>at this point, before you've made any changes, that page 7 is blank.  On that 
>>page, just type the title of the book, bold it, and enlarge it to 20 point 
>>font.  Then type the author and below that the publisher.
>>In most cases, the copyright page is on the flipside of the actual title page 
>>containing title, author, and publisher.
>>And after those two pages are often acknowledgements, dedication, maybe a 
>>page, and possibly a page containing just the title of the book.
>>You shouldn't ever need to reorder pages.  It sounds like the title page of 
>>book didn't scan clearly enough to give you recognizable text.  This is very 
>>very common as publishers seem to think that fancy fonts are desirable on 
>>pages and OCR chokes on them.
>>Hope some of that ramble helps!
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Denise Wagner
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 7:45 AM
>>To: bksvol-discuss
>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Question: Title page position
>>Hi all,
>>I have a simple question.  I submitted a book I proofread and it came back to 
>>needing a title page.  The note indicated it should be on page 7.  It does 
>>already have a title page on page 10 right before the page where Chapter One 
>>So, the question is:  Is there a particular order in which the Front matter 
>>needs to be in?
>>I plan to move the title page, of course, to page 7, but I just want to make 
>>sure I understand for future proofreading.

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