[bksvol-discuss] Re: Question About Protecting Chapters

  • From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:25:45 -0800

Carrie, I'm responding to two questions here; I don't know how I missed this 
one previously. As far as I can remember, all the N.Y. Times books have two 
numbers; why your scanning program does this and Kurzweil does not, I do not 
know. Perhaps someone like Jake does. Needless to say, I prefer Kurzweil's way, 
but it's no big thing. Kurzweil says page and gives that number; it just 
doesn't show on the version that appears in Bookshare. Remember, I'm only 
speaking from a braille reader's standpoint. I have no idea what daisy does. 
Actually in the case of American Wife, the two page entry was handy because 
when I was asking the navigation tool to go to a specific page, the number it 
uses is the so-called page number, not the print page number. I hope this is 
clearer than I think it may be. 
Now my real question: I have forgotten how I should label American Wife as I 
return it. I will remove the Hold For Jill in the title, but should I then put 
Hold for Carrie? Overall, it probably took me an hour to make the changes, and 
I would like to feel free to do this to other books when I come across other 
scanos that can easily be corrected. This is why I really don't want credit; 
after all, I am already inconveniencing you by your having to put the book back 
on step 1. If i rescanned a book, that would be a different matter. Thank you 
for humoring my obsessive streak. Jill 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Carrie Karnos 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 9:40 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question About Protecting Chapters


  Hi Jill,

  Which New York Times book are you reading with 2 numbers after the page 
break? I have never put 2 numbers on each page, I put just the page number. I'd 
like to know how the book got messed up. I'll investigate if you'll tell me the 
book title and author.

  Thanks! Carrie



  ----- Original Message ----
  From: Jill O'Connell <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 9:43:06 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question About Protecting Chapters

  I find it very hard to believe that validators have been filling in all of 
  my page numbers without ever contacting me. When I check my books which I 
  admit I don't do too often, the page numbers as well as the chapter headings 
  have been there. This brings up another issue that I have been wondering 
  about. When I submit a book scanned with Kurzweil, the print page number is 
  the only number shown; however, I am currently reading a book scanned under 
  New York Times and after the page break, there are two numbers, one 
  representing the total number of pages in the book and the other the print 
  page. Personally, I prefer having only one number shown. Jill
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 4:17 AM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question About Protecting Chapters


  > Jill I suspect this info is about validating rather than scanning. The 
  > stripper will remove page numbers unless they are surrounded by 
  > linebreaks. If you as the submitter do not put them in, the validator 
  > needs to do so.
  >
  > E.
  >
  >
  > At 01:38 AM 10/20/2008, you wrote:
  >>Bud, I'm sure that's fine, but actually I don't even put a blank line 
  >>before
  >>the number and it comes out just the way it should. I'm just talking about 
  >>scanning in Kurzweil; I don't know anything about how it is best with 
  >>other scanning programs. Jill
  >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Schwab" <budschwab@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  >>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  >>Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 2:07 PM
  >>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question About Protecting Chapters
  >>
  >>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>>>Hi Jill,
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>It's always been hazy to me just where the top of the page is.  I guess
  >>>when Kurzweil announces a page number that's the top of the page, so if I
  >>>down arrow one time that should put the blank line there and then comes
  >>>the page number which I put in there if there's none there, then another
  >>>blank line before the text starts.  Does that sound right?
  >>>Thanks.
  >>>
  >>>Bud
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>>>Where does the page number come in there?  Should it be above chapter
  >>>>>title with a blank line before and after?
  >>>>>Thanks, that's always been hazy to me as to just what is the  correct
  >>>>>way.
  >>>>>Thanks.
  >>>>>
  >>>>>Bud
  >>>>>
  >>>>>>--- On Sat, 10/18/08, siss52 <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  >>>>>>
  >>>>>> > From: siss52 <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  >>>>>> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question About Protecting Chapters
  >>>>>> > To: bksvol-discuss@freelists
  >>>>>>i> Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 12:27 AM
  >>>>>> > Hi Susan,
  >>>>>> >
  >>>>>> > Yes, I do it like this:
  >>>>>> > page break
  >>>>>> > blank line
  >>>>>> > asterisks
  >>>>>> > blank line
  >>>>>> > chapter name
  >>>>>> > blank line
  >>>>>> > Text
  >>>>>> >
  >>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
  >>>>>> > From: Susan
  >>>>>> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >>>>>> > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 1:23 AM
  >>>>>> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question About Protecting
  >>>>>> > Chapters
  >>>>>> >
  >>>>>> >
  >>>>>> > Hi Sue,
  >>>>>> >
  >>>>>> > Do you put a blank line after the chapter name too? Thanks.
  >>>>>> >
  >>>>>> > Susan
  >>>>>> >
  >>>>>> >
  >>>>>> >
  
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