[bksvol-discuss] Re: Puzzlement

  • From: <ohio1803@xxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 23:17:44 -0700

Hey you guys are awesome alright.
thanks very much.
Really great to read these specific recommended K-1000 settings.
I will plan on making the changes in my settings next book scan I do.

One question...

Grayscale, huh?

I did use it one time on a big CD Boxed set that had this terrible contrast 
problem. Like a shiny silver font on a dark background. And grayscale was the 
only thing that I could get to work.   

But boy I did find however that the 60 page document was just powerfully huge. 
And it caused my machine to slow down.  Though it was a machine that did not 
have too much memory.  I had to break it down into smaller chunks, and just do 
sections and then put them together later in Rich Text.

This was not for Bookshare submission. But it is something I am always trying 
to do, to read the text with new commercial music materials which often are not 
otherwise available.

So, I am a little shy of the grayscale unless I know I have this contrast 

Do many of you actually scan in Grayscale, then?

Thanks again.

From: Mayrie ReNae 
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 7:55 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Puzzlement

HI Scott,

The section containing tips for scanning using Kurzweil 1000 still contains the 
improper document.  The document in this section is instructions for 
proofreading using Kurzweil 1000.  The scanning tips are different, and in case 
anyone went looking for those instructions, I'm pasting them below.


Scanning a Book Using Kurzweil 1000 Version 11


The settings that I use in Kurzweil 1000 version 11.03 for preparing a book for 
submission to bookshare are those that I have found to be the most accurate.  
Though there are many options for differing settings, especially scanning 
settings, these are the ones that give the best results in my experience having 
worked on well over 500 books. 


The processes that I describe for preparing the book for submission are those 
that are most helpful for a proofreader, again in my experience with well over 
500 books proofread.


Scanner settings are as follows:

Scan and recognize, automatic page orientation, gray-scale data, resolution at 
300 DPI.

Recognition settings:

Collumn identification disabled, two pages recognized per scan, speckle removal 
disabled, Text quality is normal, partial collumns kept, suspicious regions 
kept, blank pages kept, recognition engine is FineReader 8.0, English will be 

Reading settings:

Line endings will be ignored by the editor and tables will not be identified.

I do not identify tables in straight fiction because junk sometimes scans as a 
table and is more of a pain to remove that way, more time consuming.  I have to 
know when I'll need table recognition so I can enable it. If you have a book 
containing tables, you're best advised to know that before beginning to scan.

Conversion settings: 

This set of settings is not available in versions earlier than version 11. In 
this dialogue the only deviation from the defaults is to disable "split long 
pages" wherever this option is available.  

General settings: Raise the confidence level to 98.5. The default of 95.0 
leaves too many errors to correct.


Save the file as a kes file under the name of the book. Convert to rtf as 
bookshare requires its submissions to be in rtf format only once you have done 
all clean-up.


Clean up preliminary pages and confirm accurate page count: 

Label: [From The Back Cover] [From The Front Flap] [From The Back Flap][This 
Page is blank.] if any blank pages exist. Read through all preliminary pages 
and correct all scannos.  

Determine where the publisher thought page one should go and set an opperator 
defined page number there as page 1.

Check that the last page in the book is numbered properly, telling you that you 
do not have any missing or duplicated pages. If the numbers don’t match, either 
rescan and insert pages that you missed, or delete duplicated pages. It is 
helpful to proofreaders if you insert missing page numbers if they have not 
scanned at all or are unclear.


Once you have done these things, you're ready to convert your book to an rtf 
file and submit it.


From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Rains
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 6:22 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Puzzlement


Of course there is always a value judgement in the decision to reject but let 
me publicly encourage those who are very experienced proofers and scanners to 
exercise that role. 

For those who are less experienced,  establish a formal or informal 
relationship with more experienced volunteers. Ask them to advise you on making 
the call to reject or to fix. As you see from this thread much time is consumed 
by not legitimately rejecting a book – including the time of the scanner who 
may continue to repeat the same mistakes until given feedback.

This list is a rich source of advice on the subtleties of scanning software, 
hardware, and AT. On this point, if anyone feels there is something missing in 
the scanning section of the Online Manual let me know or open it for discussion 
here on the list under a new Subject line. Here is a relevant section of the 



From: Martha Rafter <mlhr@xxxxxxx>
Reply-To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 06:09:10 -0800
To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Puzzlement

Hi Lori,
   Sometimes when I check out a book that gives me problems right off the bat, 
I simply just release it, thinking that someone else may be smarter than I am 
and knows how to fix the book.  It’s probably not fair for the next person, but 
that is why I sometimes release a book instead of rejecting it.  I think that 
you did the right thing; good for you!

From: Lori Castner 
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 8:46 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Puzzlement

Today I checked out a book that had been on the checkout list for a number of 
months.  Three or so people had checked out this book and released it.
When I looked at the book I saw it had a number of styles.  Per an email from 
Misha (excuse spelling) that I had kept I removed styles.  Then I changed 
section breaks to page breaks.
Then I found that the book had very few page numbers and that those numbers did 
not line up at all with the number of pages between the numbered pages.  There 
was no way to determine where page breaks really should occur and where to make 
the appropriate number of page numbers to align the material on the appropriate 
Finally, I rejected the book.
Now, I really would prefer not to reject a book, but sometimes it is really 
necessary to do so and part of our volunteer responsibility to do so.
I can't really understand why I am the first person who checked out the book 
who was willing to reject it.  I'm not hard-hearted, but there was no way to 
get the book in the necessary shape to add it to the collection.

Feeling like an ogre,
Lori C.

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