[bksvol-discuss] Re: Protecting chapter anemes/page numbers

  • From: Mike <mlsestak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 16:39:05 -0700

If the page numbers are at the bottom of the page and there are no headers at the top of the page the section titles should not be stripped as they are not repeated. That and the fact that headers and footers rarely scan perfectly throughout the book are why many submitters and validators strip headers, tedious as it is. However, Jake once said something about pages that begin with the word Chapter having their first line stripped, too. 

Misha

Devorah Greenstein wrote:

Okay, what I don't understand is if I'm validating a book with page
numbers are at the bottom (which I'm doing now), why the Stripper does
not strip away the top line of text on every page if it so determinedly
chomps away a chapter name which only looks like a line of text to the
Stripper. (I think capitalizing the 'S' in Stripper makes it sound more
animate and intentional.)

Why don't I have to protect the top line of text if I have to put
asterisks or other junk text above a chapter name that only appears
once?

Devorah




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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Protecting chapter anemes/page numbers

If the page numbers are at the bottom of the page you definitely have to
put something like the *********** at the top of pages with section/chapter/story names (as the first reader found out all too painfully from a book I recently validated *groan*). You would think this stripper would know that the first time a new header comes up it is a title to be kept. But no, it's outa there with that title unless you give it something else above the title to remove.
Also, if there is a page number with nothing else on the same line at the top of the page, that too will protect chapter names. 

Misha


Shelley Rhodes wrote:

Good response Cindy,

I also put a row of ********* above the Chapter title, to give um, the
stripper something to eat so it leaves my chapter numbers alone!


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 5:50 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Protecting chapter anemes/page numbers


Sigh. Mary Anne, I was hoping someone else would reply to your

question, but

no one has so far, so here goes. (I say that because I don't explain

things

as clearly as some others do).

Bookshare has automatic stripper (which we all keep hoping will strip

itself

and disappear). It's intended to automatically delete headers, but it
doesn't do a very good job of that. It's intended, I think, to take

out

words that are repeated exactly, on the first line, and so it will

delete

the word Chapter unless something is put on the line in front of the

word. I

think it takes out page numbers if the header is on the same line. So

we who

scan or validate usually remove the headers by oursleves, put a line

space

and then the page number and then another space, and thus, because the

page

number is always different on every page, the word chapter, which is

usually

a couple of lines below the page number, is preserved.

HTH

G.Cindy


Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Protecting chapter anemes/page numbers
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, May 8, 2008, 7:12 AM
Could someone please explain what is meant by protecting
chapter names and
page  numbers?  I've seen this but can't find what
it means.  I'm in the
process of scanning a few books for submission so I'd
like to do it right.
Thanks.

--
Mary Anne Lynskey

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