[bksvol-discuss] Re: Proposing the Creation of a Validation Starter Kit

  • From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:51:26 -0500

Yes, I do that as well, Shane.  If they cannot be removed with find and 
replace in Word, I remove them manually as I go.

Sue S.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shane Christenson" <drummershane@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:42 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Proposing the Creation of a Validation Starter 
Kit


I do too. That's why I remove every one of them I see when I'm
scanning or validating a book.

Shane
At 09:58 AM 10/30/2007, you wrote:
>Hi Jill,
>I hate headers like author and title.
>
>Stacey and GEB dog Chesley
>staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 11:27 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Proposing the Creation of a Validation
>Starter Kit
>
>
>>As has been said before, there is no rule about this, but being a
>>braille reader, I remove all headers whether scanning or
>>validating. Occasionally, I have my BrailleNote with speech on, and
>>I don't like hearing the headers there either.
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Amber" <amberanddottie@xxxxxxx>
>>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 6:22 PM
>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Proposing the Creation of a
>>Validation Starter Kit
>>
>>
>>>I have a question.  if a book just says the authors name at the
>>>start of every page as I scan is that acceptable?   Amber.  G.
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 8:10 PM
>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Proposing the Creation of a
>>>Validation Starter Kit
>>>
>>>
>>>>I agree with Allison that a project of this magnitude would have
>>>>seemed overwhelming to me when I started.
>>>>
>>>>However, some of this could be added to Jake's site (sorry, I
>>>>don't have the URL right now). And maybe have a checklist or
>>>>frequently asked questions sheet that would point new validators
>>>>to the various tools you mention.
>>>>
>>>>In that way, new validators could use the checklist as a cookbook
>>>>to follow while validating their first books, and have places to
>>>>go to solve problems as they are encountered.
>>>>
>>>>I don't think you need anyone's permission to add things to
>>>>Jake's site, do you? I've never added anything.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>>Bob
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Allison" <bookshare_girl@xxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 7:07 PM
>>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Proposing the Creation of a
>>>>Validation Starter Kit
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I think that a new validator could possibly be overwhelmed by
>>>>>all that. I know I would have been.  Interesting idea though.
>>>>>Allison
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "groups Warford"
>>>>><groups_warford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 4:23 PM
>>>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Proposing the Creation of a Validation
>>>>>Starter Kit
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My name is Cindy, and I'm a new validator to the Bookshare
>>>>>>site.  In working
>>>>>>on my first submission, I find myself in almost total terror
>>>>>>that I'm going
>>>>>>to miss something crucial or even minor errors.  I know that all of 
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>human scanners are very conscientious and clean up a lot of errors
>>>>>>themselves, but I feel that it is my place as the validator to
>>>>>>perform this
>>>>>>job.  I started thinking, what would help someone like myself, and 
>>>>>>would
>>>>>>like to propose the following for discussion:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A Validation Getting Started Packet
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In my mind I see this packet being a zip file containing:
>>>>>>1) a 1-page document with information such as:
>>>>>>A) A pointer to the excellent archive of the class Louise gave
>>>>>>on validating
>>>>>>
>>>>>>B) A brief explanation of the purpose of the kit
>>>>>>C) A summary of what is contained within the starter kit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>2) A 10 to 20 page portion of a book which has already been scanned 
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>marked as excellent.  However, for this purpose these pages
>>>>>>would be changed
>>>>>>to contain errors such as:
>>>>>>A) A missing page
>>>>>>B) Section break to be replace with a page break
>>>>>>C) Some of the common scanning and OCR errors that are already 
>>>>>>documented
>>>>>>D) Several spelling errors
>>>>>>At the front of this test document, it would clearly state that
>>>>>>these errors
>>>>>>have been placed within the pages purposely and through no fault of 
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>original person who scanned the document.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>3) A document listing the errors within the test document and
>>>>>>how to correct
>>>>>>them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>4) A clean copy of the 10-20 pages
>>>>>>
>>>>>>5) A copy of the Common Scanning and OCR errors document which already
>>>>>>exists
>>>>>>
>>>>>>6) A copy of the Bookshare Volunteer Manual
>>>>>>
>>>>>>7) A document containing steps on how to correct common issues,
>>>>>>for example,
>>>>>>laying out the steps for replacing a section break with a page
>>>>>>break, how to
>>>>>>replace em dashes with double dashes, etc.   (I've started my
>>>>>>own list from
>>>>>>discussions in this list file as well as from Louise's class
>>>>>>and would ask
>>>>>>for input from all of the volunteers for the information they
>>>>>>feel should go
>>>>>>into this document)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Since I am the one making the proposal, I would be glad to do the 
>>>>>>work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What I'm asking the people on the list, both validators and
>>>>>>scanners alike,
>>>>>>is:
>>>>>>1) Do you feel that such a packet would be helpful to others?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>2) Would you personally have used such a tool if it existed
>>>>>>when you started
>>>>>>validating?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>3) Finally, if the consensus is that the packet might be
>>>>>>helpful, a pointer
>>>>>>to whom I should go to for final approval.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thank you in advance for reading, and I look forward to all
>>>>>>opinions, both
>>>>>>pro and con. Also for any other suggestions that any of you might 
>>>>>>have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Best Regards,
>>>>>>Cindy Warford
>>>>>>Cindy_warford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>PS: I am on vacation this week and am on dial up, so may not be able 
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>respond quickly, but I will respond as soon as I am able.
>>>>>>"Success is loving life and daring to live it".
>>>>>>- Maya Angelou
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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