[bksvol-discuss] Re: Proofing: Is this correct?

  • From: Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 21:23:16 -0500

Well, I have on a few occasions seen an ellipsis used to indicate a change of scene, but it is usually used along with a blank line too. The point that I am trying to make is that three asterisks are not used when there is an ellipsis whether it indicates a change of scene or not and they are not used when there is a change of scene, per se. The three asterisks are used when there is a blank line that is there because the author wanted it to be there. That might be almost always where there is a change of scene, but it is not the change of scene that triggers the use of the asterisks. It is the blank line.

On 11/30/2012 5:40 PM, Cindy Rosenthal wrote:
drat.I keep forgetting to save my un-sent post and they're not always auto saved; yes--Sue is right, and Roger s right about how to treat an ellipsis as a word, with spaces on either side, but ellipses are not used to indicate change of scene, as are asterisks, but to indicate an incomplete thought, i.e., missing words within a sentence or missing sentences within a paragraph; (or to indicate that something is omitted from a quoted sentence. I was going to paste a definition and examples from Wikipedia but then I saw that it also said that the ellipsis is sometimes called a suspension, and this probably serves to explain the use of an ellpsis as well as anything.

On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Sue Stevens <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    You did it right by using the asterisks, so don’t worry about it.
    Sue S.
    *From:* Regina Alvarado <mailto:reggie.alvarado@xxxxxxxxx>
    *Sent:* Friday, November 30, 2012 3:28 PM
    *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Proofing: Is this correct?

    Ug! Confused once again! Maybe this just getting to be too much
    for me? I just uploaded having put * * * between change of scenery
    lines.  Probably will get it back! Ug.  Someday maybe I will
    understand, but have a headache right now so will not worry about
    this book until it comes back!  Is it supposed to be like this?

    Line of text

    . . .

    Line of text

    The utterly confused, hurting and tired one


    <mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of *Roger
    Loran Bailey
    *Sent:* Friday, November 30, 2012 1:11 PM
    *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Proofing: Is this correct?

    Except for one thing. The ellipsis is to be treated as a word. If
    it is at the end of a sentence it consists of the three dots and
    then an additional period for a total of four dots. If it
    indicates a change of scenery or scene it is still treated that
    way and with no asterisks. A change of scene may be indicated with
    an ellipsis or it may be indicated with a blank line or it may be
    indicated with both. The three asterisks are to be used when there
    is a blank line that we want to retain though. Most often that is
    an indication of a passage of time or an indication of scene, but
    it does not necessarily have to be. Whatever it indicates it is
    replaced with three asterisks. It has nothing to do with the

    On 11/29/2012 11:41 PM, Sandi Ryan wrote:

    Hi Reggie,

    This looks correct to me for a book where the page numbers are at
    the bottom.


        ----- Original Message -----

        *From:* Regina Alvarado <mailto:reggie.alvarado@xxxxxxxxx>

        *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

        *Sent:* Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:43 PM

        *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Proofing: Is this correct?

        Received a book back for more editing.  Before I send back, I
        am trying to proof the new way.  Want to know if this is
        correct.  I understand about the font and points.  However,
        have a few other questions:

         1. When putting an ellipsis to denote change of scenery it
            is done like this?

        Line of text

        * * *

        Line of text

         2. If the number is at the bottom of the page it is done
            like this?

        Last Line of text on a page

        page number

        Page break

         3. When there is a chapter name (understanding bolding and
            points and fon) it is set up like this?

        First line below page break

        Chapter number and title

        First line of text

         4. When there is the start of a new page it is done like this.

        Line at top of page

        First line of text

        I will say thanks to anyone who helps.  Want to get this book
        up and not have it come back for even more editing.


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