[bksvol-discuss] Re: Position of Scanner wasbookbooks

  • From: "Lori Castner" <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:21:48 -0700

Hi, Kim,

You need not turn yur scanner.  What I described as the bottom of the frame is 
the left side the way you have it positioned.

I am so glad that Monica has offered to help you.  She is the best, and she can 
teach.  But if you have questions please continue to ask!

Lori C.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kim Friedman 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:27 AM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks


  Hi, Lori, it is possible that I have my scanner facing completely around. The 
way it sits on my desk top the hinge is at the top, the buttons are on the 
front. It looks as if I might have to turn the scanner around by 90 degrees in 
order to use the thing. Lesson 1 for me. Thanks. Regards, Kim. 



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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lori Castner
  Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:05 PM
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks


  P.S., Kim, my husband reminded me to say that you do need to hold down the 
book so that the page is flat on the scanner, and you do need to line up the 
left margin of the page with the edge of the scanner.  Considering the hinged 
edge of the cover to be the left side of the scanner, you line the bound edge 
of the book against the inner edge of the raised frame at the bottom of the 
scanner with the perpendicular edge of the page lining up with the inner edge 
of the righthand frame.

  Hope that is clear and that it helps.

  Lori C.

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Lori Castner 
    To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:47 AM
    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks


    Hi, Kim,

    Actually for the most part scanning is just as effortless as your family 
thinks it is.

    I use Openbook, not Kurtzweil, so there may be some settings that would 
help you; I hope Kurzweil users will comment.

    Also, with the Cannon most books lay on the flatbed, but it may be 
necessary to scan one page at a time.

    I did use Kurtzweil at work many years ago, but did not do books or 
anything I would want to keep.

    Why don't you either start with justa letter, a short document or a short 
book to see how it goes.  Once you have done some scanning, you will better 
know what questions to ask.

    With encouragement,
    Lori C.

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Kim Friedman 
      To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:27 AM
      Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks


      Hi, Lori, what intimidates me is that I've never had a scanner before and 
I don't know the first thing about scanning anything. I have stuff that might 
be wider than the scanner's bed. Will the book still scan in that case? When I 
got Kurzweil 1000 version 11.0, I called the Tech Support folks and they helped 
me set up Kurzweil and I've read some of the manual, but manuals and me don't 
get along, I.e., I hear what I'm reading, but whatever knowledge that is there 
isn't absorbed by me as it goes right over my head. I am not the greatest 
problem solver in the world and have no idea of the questions I ought to be 
asking and resolving to scan something. I have family members who assume that 
all one does is slap something down on the scanner, it scans automatically, 
Kurzweil reads it automatically, and voila! instant images ready to be read, 
etc. I'm wondering if it's really all that simple. I've never seen anything in 
my life, so have no way to gauge what's occurring. Let's face it, I'm scared. I 
know it's irrational and unreasonable, but there it is. I don't know anybody 
living nearby who can walk me through using the thing. That's It pure and 
simple. I've put something on the scanner and have apparently had no results 
due to my total lack of knowledge, possible non-willingness to persevere, and 
fear. Regards, Kim the scannerphobe.  



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      From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lori Castner
      Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:21 AM
      To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks


      Kim what intimidates you about the cannon scanner?  My husband uses one 
and has had very good luck.

      Lori C.

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Kim Friedman 
        To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:15 AM
        Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks


        Hi, Monica, if you are interested The Cake Bible is in the NLS program. 
 In fact, I got the recording and duplicated it for my personal use. Rose Levy 
Beranbaum has other cookbooks and one of them is The Pastry Bible. I think her 
books may be tough because her ingredients lists are written using weight 
measurements as well as the cups and spoons measurements we're used to. Along 
with that, she uses sidebars which have commentary. I imagine there are a lot 
of illustrations in her books. I have heard of Taste of Home, but haven't read 
the magazines they produce. I'm getting Bon Appétit and I used to get Gourmet. 
I have found some neat cookbooks. I've got some cookbooks in print that I'd 
definitely love to see in the Bookshare collection. I have a Canon LIDE90 
scanner but am unsure and intimidated about using it. It's a flatbed scanner 
and is longer than it is wide. It's sitting there on my desk and is plugged 
into the computer with a USB cable. Anyhow, thanks for writing back. Regards, 
Kim.



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        From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Monica Willyard
        Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 4:31 PM
        To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks


        Kim, you and I have similar interests in cookbooks. (smile) I'd like to 
see the list of cookbooks you'd like to have access to. I can help with 
scanning if they are at my library. I also have just been given a stack of 
cookbooks today, and I'll work on adding those too. Many of them are from 
Better Homes and Gardens or Taste Of Home. I don't know how well they'll scan. 
The Taste Of Home books seem to be doing well so far. The Better Homes and 
Gardens books are thinner but are also done in columns. I'll tackle one soon 
and see how well it works out.

        I did send a book called The Cake Bible to the Bookshare office with 
the hope that Carrie's proofreaders could work on it. I don't know if they are 
able to process it though. I hope so because there are a lot of good cake 
recipes in there. My mom used to read it to me.

        Monica Willyard
        "The best way to predict the future is to create it." -- Peter Drucker




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        From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kim Friedman
        Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:08 PM
        To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks


        Hi, Monica, I thank you for your message. This stuff, needless to say, 
is unknown territory to me. The stuff I found on amazon.com vary in date, but 
I'll bet you some of them are definitely of recent vintage (not sure though). I 
thought these would be a change from the usual Weight Watcher stuff of which 
Bookshare seems to have a great amount. I like ethnic cookbooks and seem to be 
gravitating to cookbooks about desserts and baking, if only for making me 
imagine how those desserts might taste. (I'm getting hungry just thinking about 
this stuff.) I am not saying there shouldn't be books on health, diet, and 
nutrition, but I lean towards the straight cookbook that concerns itself with 
what people eat in a particular cuisine, how to get the ingredients, cooking 
methods, history of cooking in that cuisine, and (I hope) lovely delicious 
recipe instructions that make me wish I were eating what I'm reading about. 
Would anybody like me to go into amazon.com and I can send the names of 
cookbooks that I'm interested in seeing at bookshare, both the ones on my 
shopping cart (to be bought later) and those on my wish list? I think if anyone 
is interested in this I should send the lists directly to interested parties on 
the Bookshare volunteer discussion list. Also they might write me off list so 
nobody gets in trouble. Regards, Kim.  ksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Monica Willyard
        Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:36 AM
        To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks


        Hi Kim and Jamie. For what it's worth, I've found that many cookbooks 
from the 80s and early 90s scan better than brand new cookbooks. I think that's 
because they were using computers with more standard fonts, and they tend to 
use real fractions instead of the half symbol in ingredient lists. Cookbooks 
from the 60s, on the other hand, don't scan so well because they often use a 
font that is sort of decorative or like handwriting, and the paper has 
yellowed. The Frugal Gourmet books from the late 80s scanned very well. I wish 
I still had them to submit. I scanned them back when I was using DOS when I 
scanned them in 1991, and they were almost flawless. I couldn't convert them 
when I started using Windows, and that means scanning them from scratch. I got 
them from my local library. That means I can get them again. I just need some 
vacation time to do more scanning. The Frugal Gourmet Cooks With Wine is my 
favorite in that series. Oh no! Now I've made myself hungry from thinking about 
the Italian gravy recipe in that book. 

        Monica Willyard
        "The best way to predict the future is to create it." -- Peter Drucker



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