You're absolutely right which just shows how observant I am. My excuse is that one isn't all that aware of empty cells at the beginning of a paragraph because only one line at a time is showing. The BrailleNote ends up with a lot of short lines because it doesn't have 40 cells; it's the only reason so far that I wish I had a Pacmate since the main thing I do with my BrailleNote is read. I find that in a web braille book I have four empty cells at the beginning of a paragraph. Is that what you have on the Pacmate? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 3:20 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Paragraphs in Blue Like Jazz
I have a 40-cell Braille display, and the five web Braille books I have read so far have indented paragraphs. They also have centering of chapter titles and other headings. I can see why centering of headings would be off on a shorter display, since the books are formatted for the Braille page, but I wouldn't expect paragraph indentation to depend on the length of the display since it's still the same two spaces at the beginning of each paragraph.Evan----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 2:07 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Paragraphs in Blue Like JazzCindy, I'll take your word for how print books are done as I really only look at them to find incorrect or missing words. I was basing what I said on the fact that when we compose on the keyboard, we make two carriage returns to denote a paragraph so I assumed books did that as well. It is also true that if we are embossing a print document in braille, the paragraph will be indented. However, as I said before, the BrailleNote doesn't show that, and it doesn't show it in WebBraille books either because only 18 or 32 cells are present whereas the braille book is in, I believe, a 38 cell line. I agree with E; I think Bookshare needs to give direction so you can use your perfectionistic tendencies in more productive ways. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 12:59 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Paragraphs in Blue Like JazzHi, Jill. Interesting. I've never seen a print book that uses a blank line to denote paragraphs, and I've done a *lot* of reading in the last 65 or 66 years of my life (I don't remember at what age I started to read, so I'm subtracting some years, not to be accused of hyperbole--grin). There are lines skipped--usually two or three--between sections, to indicate more of a change of subject or location or speaker than is indicated by a change in paragraph, but otherwise, except perhaps in children's picture books, paragraphs are indented, as far as I've seen. As for bookshare, a few years ago I asked people on the list if they preferred to have paragraphs indented or lines skipped between them. I didn't receive that many answers, but of the answers I received, more preferred indented paragraphs. I'm willing to provide whatever is preferable, but it offends my English-teacher/copy editor sensibilities (smile) to leave a book without paragraphs. smile Cindy And as for people who can see that useBookshare, print books use a blank line to denote paragraphs so why would they want it indented?____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.-- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG.Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/927 - Release Date: 7/30/2007 5:02 PMTo unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.-- No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/927 - Release Date: 7/30/2007 5:02 PM
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