I agree; if a search does not find them, then they aren't there. There is a command Show All which can be toggled on and off with control+shift+8 (the number 8). Then the paragraph marks will speak, but every space is spoken with the word bullet, so you don't want to leave the feature on indefinitely. Lori From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judy s. Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 7:37 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Paragraph problems in open book version 9 If you're doing a search for them, they'll show up in the search if they're there. Otherwise, they don't generically show on a page within word. You actually have to turn on a special view to find them if you are, for example, a sighted reader. Judy s. On 8/13/2014 9:33 PM, Larry Lumpkin wrote: I didn't see any in word. Do you have to do something in word to see them? From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judy s. Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 8:46 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Paragraph problems in open book version 9 If you open the rtf with Word, you can do a search for ^p (that's caret p) which searches for a paragraph mark. Use this to check if there are any. There should be one at the end of every single paragraph. Judy s. On 8/13/2014 8:35 PM, Larry Lumpkin wrote: This may see dumb, but how do I determine in an rtf file produced from an open book scan whether paragraphs exist or not? -- Judy s. Follow me on Twitter at QuackersNCheese <https://twitter.com/QuackersNCheese> -- Judy s. Follow me on Twitter at QuackersNCheese <https://twitter.com/QuackersNCheese>