[bksvol-discuss] Re: Page numbers and headers/footers

  • From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 00:25:20 -0700 (PDT)

Jim,

I have a comment and a question:

Comment:  I do plan to do my part to make Fair books
excellent.  I've downloaded some from the download
list and thought I'd work on others when I finish
these, but would it be better for me to take them from
the download list, and reject if they're too hard to
fix, or to ask that books already in the collection be
put on the download list for me to fix. I know Shelley
is doing that now. (I guess that's  a comment-question
combination).

Question:  If you're eventually going to have headers
and footers (what are footers? I don't think I've seen
any except page numbers) in such a way that people who
want them can have them and people who don't t don't
have to, does that mean that as validators we should
stop eliminating them,  at least if not now when you
have that choice  available?

Cindy


--- Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> Hey, I promised my next post would be on this topic.
>  Here it is!
>  
> Let's talk about the objectives we had in creating
> today's workflow:
> 
> *     Take a bunch of text file formats as input, and
> get them to RTF
> *     Create an automated tool to turn the RTF into a
> single XML file
> *     Use that single source file to create a DAISY
> book, and a BRF
> book
> *     Capture page tags and page numbers correctly
> *     Hopefully capture chapter tags
> 
> We weren't able to automatically get chapter tags
> four years ago, and
> haven't been able to put much effort into it since. 
> As many of you
> know, we surveyed our users some time back and got a
> lot of feedback
> (more than half of our users at that time responded)
> that improving
> quality was a big deal.  We've been trying to
> upgrade all Fair quality
> books, and focusing more on high quality content. 
> We've also moved away
> from accepting books without pages, since we regard
> page numbers as the
> minimum navigation requirement to meet basic quality
> standards.  
>  
> Rather than getting into the deep discussion of whys
> and wherefores, let
> me test out an ideal solution to make sure I know
> what people would
> want:
> 
> *     On the input side, correct print page numbering
> captured in all
> of our books
> *     On the output side, the ability to have these
> print page numbers
> and headers and footers accessible in either DAISY
> or BRF formats:
> people who don't want them don't see them, and
> people who do want them
> do see them
> 
> If this worked perfectly, would people be happy?  By
> making sure we're
> clear on the ideal solution, we can go back to how
> we're missing and how
> to get closer to the ideal than we are doing today. 
> The timing is good,
> because we're designing Bookshare.org's first
> overhaul, and we need to
> know where we're going.  We already know that we're
> likely to get a much
> different input stream three years from now than we
> did in the past
> three years, so the input processing workflow is
> definitely getting
> revisited. 
>  
> Jim Fruchterman
> President and CEO
> Benetech
>  
> 480 California Avenue, Suite 201
> Palo Alto, California 94306 USA
> +1 650 475-5440 extension 106
> Fax: +1 650 475-1066
>  
> jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.benetech.org <http://www.benetech.org/> 
>  
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> Humanity
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>  
> 


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