Hi Debby! You're welcome. I'm glad my example made sense. *smile* Blessings. Lynn I ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debby Franson" <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:57 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page numbering Hi Lynn! Thanks for such a good illustration of how a blank page should look with the note that it is a blank page. That is the way I thought it should be, but thanks for confirming that I was on the right track. The only blank pages, or at least pages that appeared to be blank were at the verry beginning of the book before the title page. I haven't come across any blank pages yet in the text of the book. Debby At 10:58 PM 10/26/2009, Lynn I wrote >Hi Debby! > >There's some explanation of how blank pages are to be treated in the >Volunteer Manual which you can access on Bookshare's volunteer page. > >It's important not to delete blank pages, especially if they are numbered. >If you delete these, it could impact the final page count of the book. >Number pages which have no text should be identified with a [ (left >bracket) >followed by the phrase This page contains no text. followed by a ](right >bracket). > >The page number needs to have a blank line above and below it; and there >should be a blank line after the right bracket, before the page break. > >Here's what it should look like. > >top of the page >blank line >page number >blank line >[This page contains no text.] >blank line >page break > >HTH > >Blessings. > >Lynn I > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Debby Franson" <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx> >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:02 PM >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page numbering > > >Hi Mayrie! > >Thanks for such a helpful message. > >I am proofreading with Word 2000 and I am a Window-Eyes user. I noticed >the page breaks and there were two or three blank pages at the very >beginning of the book, so I deleted them. > >That was very helpful about going to the last page to have a number to ad >preliminary pages to. > >I read the Scanning and Proofreading Manual as well as the Volunteer >Introduction, so I just needed your assurance that I am on the right track. > >Debby > >At 12:07 AM 10/26/2009, Mayrie ReNae wrote > >Hi Debby, > > > > Word will tell you where page breaks are, either visually, if > > you > >can see, or auditorily if you are using a screen reader. So, if you > >aren't > >seeing page breaks, you might need to tell us more about what your > >software > >is, and whether you are using any adaptive software and what that is. > > > > Don't worry that bookshare's tools disagree with the page count. > >The book won't be rejected if the number that you get and the number that > >the tools get are not the same. Bookshare's tools don't always seem to > >count well unless pages are numbered with arabic numerals, so get > >confused > >about preliminary pages. The best way to be certain about the proper > >number > >of pages in a book is to find the number of the last page in the book, > >and > >add the number of preliminary pages to that number. That will give you > >the > >total number of pages. > > > > If I haven't answered your questions sufficiently, please, ask > >again. Also, you might find the scanning and proofreading manual a > >helpful > >resource as you figure out all of the vagueries of proofreading. And > >we're > >always here to help you out! > > > >It's great to have you with us! > > > >Mayrie > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Debby Franson > >Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 9:50 PM > >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page numbering > > > >Hi Lori, Cindy and everyone! > > > >I just started proofreading a book for the first time today as I just > >signed > >up for volunteering yesterday. > > > >It seems like a bit of guess work in determining where a page is exactly > >before the page numbering in the book starts. Do I just make my best > >guess? > >Also, when I loaded the book into word, I discovered there were a few > >more > >pages than what is the number of pages in the book information page. If > >the > >number doesn't come out to be exactly the same as what is given in the > >book > >information page in the end, will the book be rejected? > > > >I'm proofreading "Love on Its Knees" by Dick Eastman, and thoroughly > >enjoying reading as I proofread. > > > >Debby > > > >At 05:53 AM 10/25/2009, Lori wrote > > >That's it exactly. I get so caught up reading I lose track of numbering > > >and then have to go back and look at the last number, etc. > > > > > >Lori > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > > >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:33 PM > > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page numbering > > > > > > > > >>I don't know of any way. Someone once said Word had a way to put the > > >>page numbers in automatically. Either I tried it once and it didn't > > >>work or I didn't try it. > > >> > > >>I do what you do. The only problem with that is that at times I got so > > >>involved with the story that I either numbered the same page twice or > > >>misnumbered, or forgot to put in a number. I found out because after I > > >>finish proofing a book by reading I do a final spell-check and then a > > >>final page numbering check, by hitting the page up and down arrows. > > >>Cindy > > >> > > >>Wish List (i.e., books wanted added to the collection) and > > >>books-being-scanned list available at sites below > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>Wish List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Bookshare+Wish+List > > >> > > >>Books Being Scanned List: > > >>https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Books+Being+Scanned+List > > >> > > >> > > >>--- On Sat, 10/24/09, Lori <lori@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >> > > >>>From: Lori <lori@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Page numbering > > >>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>>Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 2:43 PM Hi all, > > >>> > > >>>At this point I have been adding in page numbers by hand making sure > > >>>to have a blink line above and below. I'm currently working on > > >>>Douglas Winter's "Clive Barker: Dark and Fantastic" which is over 600 > > >>>pages. I'm reading through it so can add missing numbers by hand, but > > >>>wanted to ask if there is another method that I am not aware of > > >>>besides manually adding them. > > >>> > > >>>Thanks for help in advance. > > >>> > > >>>Lori > > >>> > > >>>To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > > >>>bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a > > >>>list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the > > >>>subject line. > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > > >>bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. 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