[bksvol-discuss] Re: Page numbering

  • From: Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:15:36 -0500

Hi Valerie!

I wouldn't deleat blank pages anywhere in the middle of the book. I have noticed occasionally while scanning with OpenBook that a page can have pictures and the OCR says it is blank, so I know that can happen.

Thanks for the word of caution about the blank pages. There is a lot to keep track of while learning the process of proofreading.

Debby

At 10:09 PM 10/26/2009, Valerie Maples wrote
Hello again, Debby!

Mayrie will likely have a better, more comprehensive description, but
one word of caution.  Only delete blank pages if they do not affect
present page numbering.  Also, if you leave them in, number them (with
protection of blank line above and below) and then add on its own line:
[blank page] and another blank line above the page break.

Keep in mind, many blank pages are not actually blank, but images not
seen by screen readers.  If you are concerned by the number of blank
pages or references to potential images, there are several sighted
volunteers like Cindy, Jamie in MI, and myself and others who are glad
to try and check it out.  In those cases, you can add a bracketed
description or write:
[image deleted]
with the same protocols as above.

HTH!
Valerie


On 10 26, 2009, at 10:02 PM, Debby Franson wrote:

Hi Mayrie!

Thanks for such a helpful message.

I am proofreading with Word 2000 and I am a Window-Eyes user.  I
noticed the page breaks and there were two or three blank pages at
the very beginning of the book, so I deleted them.

That was very helpful about going to the last page to have a number
to ad preliminary pages to.

I read the Scanning and Proofreading Manual as well as the Volunteer
Introduction, so I just needed your assurance that I am on the right
track.

Debby

At 12:07 AM 10/26/2009, Mayrie ReNae wrote
Hi Debby,

       Word will tell you where page breaks are, either visually,
if you
can see, or auditorily if you are using a screen reader.  So, if
you aren't
seeing page breaks, you might need to tell us more about what your
software
is, and whether you are using any adaptive software and what that is.

       Don't worry that bookshare's tools disagree with the page
count.
The book won't be rejected if the number that you get and the
number that
the tools get are not the same.  Bookshare's tools don't always
seem to
count well unless pages are numbered with arabic numerals, so get
confused
about preliminary pages.  The best way to be certain about the
proper number
of pages in a book is to find the number of the last page in the
book, and
add the number of preliminary pages to that number.  That will give
you the
total number of pages.

       If I haven't answered your questions sufficiently, please, ask
again.  Also, you might find the scanning and proofreading manual a
helpful
resource as you figure out all of the vagueries of proofreading.
And we're
always here to help you out!

It's great to have you with us!

Mayrie



-----Original Message-----
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Franson
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 9:50 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page numbering

Hi Lori, Cindy and everyone!

I just started proofreading a book for the first time today as I
just signed
up for volunteering yesterday.

It seems like a bit of guess work in determining where a page is
exactly
before the page numbering in the book starts.  Do I just make my
best guess?
Also, when I loaded the book into word, I discovered there were a
few more
pages than what is the number of pages in the book information
page.  If the
number doesn't come out to be exactly the same as what is given in
the book
information page in the end, will the book be rejected?

I'm proofreading "Love on Its Knees" by Dick Eastman, and thoroughly
enjoying reading as I proofread.

Debby

At 05:53 AM 10/25/2009, Lori wrote
>That's it exactly. I get so caught up reading I lose track of
numbering
>and then have to go back and look at the last number, etc.
>
>Lori
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:33 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page numbering
>
>
>>I don't know of any way. Someone once said Word had a way to put
the
>>page numbers in automatically. Either I tried it once and it didn't
>>work or I didn't try it.
>>
>>I do what you do. The only problem with that is that at times I
got so
>>involved with the story that I either numbered the same page
twice or
>>misnumbered, or forgot to put in a number. I found out because
after I
>>finish proofing a book by reading I do a final spell-check and
then a
>>final page numbering check, by hitting the page up and down arrows.
>>Cindy
>>
>>Wish List (i.e., books wanted added to the collection) and
>>books-being-scanned list available at sites below
>>
>>
>>
>>Wish List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Bookshare+Wish +List
>>
>>Books Being Scanned List:
>>https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Books+Being+Scanned+List
>>
>>
>>--- On Sat, 10/24/09, Lori <lori@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>From: Lori <lori@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Page numbering
>>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 2:43 PM Hi all,
>>>
>>>At this point I have been adding in page numbers by hand making
sure
>>>to have a blink line above and below. I'm currently working on
>>>Douglas Winter's "Clive Barker: Dark and Fantastic" which is
over 600
>>>pages. I'm reading through it so can add missing numbers by
hand, but
>>>wanted to ask if there is another method that I am not aware of
>>>besides manually adding them.
>>>
>>>Thanks for help in advance.
>>>
>>>Lori
>>>
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