[bksvol-discuss] Re: Page Navigation Question (was Kurzweil scan to RTF file?)
- From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:10:56 -0700
Excellent! Thanks.
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From: Gerald Hovas
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 6:19 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page Navigation Question (was Kurzweil scan to
RTF file?)
Evan,
If the page numbers are at the top of the page on other pages, then move the
page numbers to the top of pages with chapter headings or add the page number
to the top of the page if it's not on the page. This will protect the chapter
heading
Gerald
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Reese
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 7:26 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page Navigation Question (was Kurzweil scan to
RTF file?)
Thanks, Pratik.
Speaking of headers: If I put a page number on those pages beginning a new
chapter, which are currently unnumbered in the book I'm finishing up, do I
still need to protect the chapter title? I have stripped all the other headers
already, but I obviously don't want to lose the chapter titles. I noticed in a
previous book I submitted that sometimes they were lost. Is this because I
forgot to put a number at the top of the page?
Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: Pratik Patel
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 3:53 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page Navigation Question (was Kurzweil scan
to RTF file?)
Evan,
You're absolutely correct. If the page numbers and breaks are correctly
placed, DAISY will take you to the correct page. One of the reasons why there
is a big emphasis placed on the correct manner of dealing with headers and
their placement is because Bookshare uses the page number information supplied
by the book to mark up the DAISY pages.
Pratik
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Reese
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 3:17 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page Navigation Question (was Kurzweil scan
to RTF file?)
That reminds me of a tangential question: Does Daisy count page breaks or
keep track of pages via Arabic page numbers. For example, if the index in a
book says something is on page 100, and I want to go to that page, will Daisy
get me to the correct page, or will it take me to the page following the 99th
page break, assuming the page breaks and page numbers are all correctly placed,
of course? I would imagine that the answer is probably that it will get me to
page Arabic 100, but I don't trust software very much, having written some
small programs myself, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear that the
answer is that it won't take me to the correct page but rather to the page
after the correct number of page breaks.
Just wondering.
----- Original Message -----
From: Pratik Patel
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 8:16 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Kurzweil scan to RTF file?
Aimy,
any time you use kurzweil to scan, I would recommend that you save your
file in its native format, which is .kes. When you ultimately upload to
Bookshare, you can always convert your files to .rtf. The .kes format have
some excellent advantages. One of those advantages is to allow you to define
your own page numbers. This means that you can tell Kurzweil 1000 where the
actual start of the book is. This features is known as "operator defined page
numbers." You can find it in the Navigation menu (alt+v). Let's say for
example, that Genji book you're currently working on starts 30 pages into the
actual scan. You should go to the actual page where the book numbering
begins. Page 1, for instance. Go to the Navigation menu (alt+v) and arrow
down to get to "operator defined page numbers." Hit enter on this menu item.
Kurzweil will ask you to put in a number. type 1 here and press enter. From
now on, Kurzweil will announce the pages in the correct sequence. Any pages
before this point are announced as preliminary numbers. So it could be,
preliminary 1, preliminary 2, preliminary 3 and so on until you get to
preliminary 30. Then you go to page one, the number where you actually begin
the book or page numbering.
And Aimy, Thanks for keeping the blank pages. We recommend that all
blank pages be kept in order to allow Bookshare tools to take advantage of page
numbering capabilities.
Regards,
Pratik
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amy Goldring Tajalli
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 2:35 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Kurzweil scan to RTF file?
Hi Pratik,
I kept the blank pages so that the pagination would be as close to the
original as possible. Since the pre-text pages are in roman numerals which
Kurzweil apparently cannot read, the final scan is reminiscent of the
difference between third age and shire reckoning except that instead of
subjractin 1600 you add 30 to the text pagination. The blanks keep me honest.
I just have to remember to reset the settings every time I go to Genji.
Amy
----- Original Message -----
From: Pratik Patel
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 7:33 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Kurzweil scan to RTF file?
That reminds me that I have a whole stack of Genji books sitting
somewhere in a box, packed away for the day when I'll get to buy a large house.
I'm sure they'll eventually make it into the collection.
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kellie Hartmann
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 6:34 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Kurzweil scan to RTF file?
Hi Amy,
Regarding your Genji project,
1. The pages with just a couple of letters may be blank pages, or they
may be pages that contain things that scanning software cannot interpret. That
might include maps, charts, pictures, Japanese characters, or any number of
other visual features. Unfortunately at this point there really isn't a way to
incorporate the sketches into the Bookshare files--right now the system is
handling text only.
I hope this is helpful and not too disappointing, and if you need more
Kurzweil tips don't hesitate to ask,
Kellie
P.S. It's neat that you are adding this cultural classic to Bookshare's
collection. One of the neatest things about Bookshare is the way it opens up
opportunities to explore literature from other cultures that might not
otherwise come to our notice.
Kellie
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