Hi Pam and all,
I agree. Also, if these changes are going to become policy, there needs to be clearly stated guidelines stating what bookshare wants on the homepage for validators and submitters alike, because especially casual submitters are going to get discouraged pretty fast if they scan books only to have them rejected because they weren't familiar with the guidelines. I am really interested to see how page breaks are determined at Bookshare, since so many of you aren't seeing them in text files. Because in my submissions at least, I promise you, they're there.
Pam
Bravo! I can validate RTF files as well as text, but we are gooing to lose
a lot of good volunteers, both as validaters and scanners, if Dave's idea is
not implemented. I have just been reading where people are saying they will
not scan, or will not validate text files any more.
Sue
----- Original Message ----- From: <talmage@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 6:36 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page Breaks
Hi Marissa,
Since many, if not most, of these problems associated with TXT files and
page breaks are the product of the software package used in editing the TXT
file, and because there is a clear majority of validaters that are
comfortable with RTF files, why don't you recommend to the powers-that-be
that all TXT submissions be immediately run through a TXT to RTF converter
at the Bookshare end so that there are no more TXT files to download for
validation.
Dave
At 07:41 PM 11/8/2004, you wrote:both?If I can just reiterate for a second, "THERE ARE NO PLANS IN BOOKSHARE.ORG'S FUTURE TO STOP ACCEPTING TEXT FILES!"
In other words, please relax.
You can keep on submitting your text files, it's ok. . .just make sure the
page breaks are intact.
This page break issue is mostly an isolated incident, I find that most books include page breaks. Would it help if we included some tips about retaining page breaks in different document formats that can be either downloaded from the volunteer page or submitted to the general list or
Marissa
-----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Louise Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:27 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page Breaks
I submit my books in txt format because I'm on a dialup connection and a
book in rtf format is much larger than in txt format and would take a long
time to upload/download so if txt books are no longer going to be allowed,
then I guess I'll not submit any more books and eventually read the 900
plus books I've already scanned for my own pleasure!
----- Original Message ----- From: <mailto:curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sarah Van Oosterwijck To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 1:36 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page Breaks
Will bookshare soon not accept txt files? I ask this because many
programs don't deal with pagebreaks in text files properly even though txt
files are usually capable of holding page breaks.
I also wonder if a validator can introduce artificial page breaks that did
not exist in the original just to make files that are in perfect condition
other than missing page breaks acceptable, or must the pagebreaks be where
they would be if the original submitter had kept the pagebreaks cause by
actual print page size?
Thanks for the clarification the the issue.
Sarah Van Oosterwijck <http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity>http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity