Hello Sharon, I will have to read this publication. Kasondra, I have never found using a laptop. Actually in my years of computing I have use laptops much more than desktop computers. I like the feel and the smaller size of a laptop keyboard. It's looking like more and more except for battery life that a light weight laptop may serve me better in the long run. Right now I have a Dell 9100 laptop which I just love. It is wireless so I can use it anywhere in the house but it is almost 10 lbs so not that kind you would want to be taking on the bus to read while traveling:) -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sharon Jackson Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 4:59 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: PackMate? If you want other opinions about the various notetakers, I would try the Accessworld journal from American Foundation for the Blind. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Van Oosterwijck" <curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 11:23 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: PackMate? > Which option to use always depends on what you want to do. If you don't > care about having a braille display I would certainly go with the > sub-compact laptop, because they can do more than any notetaker and are > cheeper than anything but a Voice Note classic. The number one reason to > consider a nottaker instead of a laptop would be battery life. Any > notetaker will get at least 25 hours of battery life. I think I heard the > PackMate gets even more, whereas a laptop will only give you a few ours. > The other problem they might cause you is annoyance do to the lack of > keys. Screen readers use so many hotkeys that a laptop keyboard just can't > provide them all, and I have found the alternatives used for laptop layout > to be kind of annoying. > > The PackMate can do a lot of things, but they can have some of the > keyboard issues that laptops have. If you get one you should get one with > a qwerty keyboard because the key combinations necessary on the braille > model can get ridiculous and hard to remember. You can run some Pocket PC > software, but only if someone has created scripts for it, so don't expect > to use software just out of the box. If you want a very small and feature > packed device with a display it is probably a very good option for you, > but be prepared for bugginess because even it's fans say it isn't the most > stable product on the market. > > If you really want a braille display at the lowest price possible, then I > would check out the Braille Sense notetaker sold by GW-Micro. It is just > under 5,000 dollars instead of over 6,000 for a model with a 32 cell > display. It also has a built in DAISY player that can use both text and > audio. That and it's price are what might make it a better option than > the braille note. It's stability and simplicity may also be of interest > to you. > > The braille note M-Power is much easier to learn and use than the > PackMate and it is designed as it is to make it a stable product. At this > point who knows just how stable it is, though. It also has more features > than the Braille Sense. The word processor is far more advanced and it > can download and unpack bookshare files. It is supposed to have a DAISY > player in the future, but I wasn't given any possible dates for that so > who knows when. Reading braille files is quite nice, though. I like the > arrangement of the front thumb keys to advance the display. I find it > more ergonomic than the other notetakers available. > > These are just some general things to think about. For actual feature > comparisons it would be best to investigate each option thoroughly by > looking at their respective web sites. I also know there are a few more > things out there, but I don't know much about them if they aren't as > strenuously marketed. > > Sarah Van Oosterwijck > Assistive Technology Trainer > http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kaitlyn Hill" <Kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 7:15 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] PackMate? > > >> Hi Barbra and all, >> >> <<FSEDIT on the PackMate tends to screw up the format and of the document >> and Pocket Word on the PackMate will work only with files 100KB or >> smaller.>> >> >> So are there many PackMate users out there? I have been kind of poking >> around trying to decide on a transportable reader for digital files. I >> have >> not heard a lot of good things about the PackMate for the money. The >> Bookcurrier I listened to the voice available and not real excited about >> it. >> I am also considering getting a subcompact notebook. I am seeing some out >> there between 2 and 3 lbs. My thought on the notebook would be I could >> run >> standard software, Word, K1000, etc. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara J >> Wagreich >> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:34 PM >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Cc: Barbara J Wagreich >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Guidelines for prep of books for >> submission? >> >> Hi Listers: >> >> Thanks for the feedback! I appreciate it. >> >> Some additional questions: >> >> 1) should the print page number be on the same line as the form feed or >> on a separate line? >> >> 2) What should I do about hyphenated words? This usually happens if the >> last workd on an ink-print page is split between the current page and >> the >> next page? Will the Bookshare stripper program fix this or should I fix >> the hyphenated words (join them together) before I submit the book? >> >> 3) The present book I'm doing is in text mode because it's easier for me >> to edit it in text mode. The parahraps are not indented but there is a >> blank line between each paragraph. will the braille translation program >> be able to identify the paragraphs? >> >> 4) I'm wondering wht formats could be edited on a Braillenote (Keysoft >> 6.11) without spoiling the format (meaning when I transfer the edited >> files back to the PC, the format wof the book will not be affected). >> FSEDIT on the PacMate tends to screw up the format and of the document >> and >> Pocket Word on the PacMate will work only with files 100KB or smaller. >> >> 5) Are there any written guidelines? if so, where would I find them? >> >> Thanks for your feedback on these questions! >> >> Barbara Wagreich >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: 8/15/2005 >> >> > > >